Interesting, yah 2cb is really chill at the 20-30 mgs range, I also started getting stimulation around 35 mgs and maybe I just wasn't expecting it, which is why I didn't like it so much.
The stimulation I got from 45mg of 2cb was pretty annoying. Not so much during the trip, but the residual stimulation for ~10 hours AFTER the trip. I couldn't go to sleep to save my life. lol The stimulation during the trip was kinda rough too, but not so much that it negatively influenced the trip. Perhaps it was just because 2ce and 2ci have always produced a decent amount of sedation, in my experience, so I was expecting similar sedation with 2cb.
did you notice your hands shake or anything on 2cb? That's the only consistent effect I tend to get at every Dose level but I think it may be more of a personal response. I've heard some people get some pretty extreme post trip stimulation, 10 hours crazy stuff.
the way you mentioned airplanes in the sky visuals reminded me of phen essence. I never hallucinated airplanes in the sky but I know exactly what you mean
i was a bit reluctant to experience this "stimulation" from 2cb (as i enjoy the almost sedated feeling that 2ce provides) but i didn't really get any. i was coming down 5 hours after dosing, developed a headache, and fell asleep maybe 3 or 4 hours later (8-9 after dosing)
Interesting, 2c-b is the psychedelic i can fall asleep easiest on afterwards. i find even at 50mg the residual stimulation is minimal . . . personal reactions are so varied
I can fall asleep easily on/after 2ce, usually. I've even fallen asleep during a pretty powerful 2ce peak. I do get the shaky hands sometimes, and the rest of my body shakes too, but it never feels like the result of stimulation. It feels like it's just the result of my body submitting to a cosmic masseuse, as if every muscle in my body is relaxing all at once.
The stimulation was almost unbearable, that is the sole reason I won't dose any higher. I felt physically restless, but was tripping too hard to do much more than tap my foot. The mental restlessness would have caused panic had I not completely devoted myself to just flowing with it. Sleep was almost impossible, and was difficult even the next night. I still can't get over how amazingly powerful, detailed and awesome the visuals were. But the restlessness makes weary of revisiting this. It's incredibly uncomfortable and annoying.
That doesn't sound particularly appealing, so I see you were watching a fireplace was the rest of your room sort of well lit or was it pretty much darkness and the fireplace?
2ci does well in light in my experience which is why I asked, I may have to check this dose out, the way you're describing the stimulation though makes me a little uneasy.
I am really grateful I got to experience it, but I was glad when it was over. And I probably won't do it again.
At what dose does the stim start becoming uneasy or overly noticeable? I haven't taken a large dose yet. Only 15mg... no visuals and stimulation comparable to adderall. Didn't feel sociable at all or even felt like talking. I was very introverted and had huge dysphoria. I was really disappointed because I took it before going out with some friends.
@GM:From what I hear, it starts getting overly stimulating after 25 mgs. Probably varies from person to person but that's what I have gathered as an approximation. Were your friends on 2ci as well? Its definitely one of those psychedelics where you want the others around you to be on the drug as well if you use it socially ime.
yeah, the dysphoria and introvertedness could have just been due to being out and about while tripping
I thought it would make a good sociably trippy drug. I went to a comedy club then saw a live DJ next door and it never manifested itself out of the blahness. It was me and one other person out of 5 on the 2ci tho since they don't trip. Experiment done. lesson learned.
was it the first and only time you've taken 2ci though? maybe it would be better for a social event once you're more familiar with it. because from my reading, it does seem like a good candidate