When a Capricorn has too many planets in Capricorn

So I have this mate in my class who I didn't quite remark until after a year, when suddenly stirred up my interest for no apparent reason. It's not like he's changed anything, he's the most quiet and still person in the room, but with the deepest eyes. I think that's what made me see him. He's definitely not my type, I'm a Gemini with Moon in Aries, Mercury and Venus in Cancer and Mars in Taurus( See my birth chart here http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1296343650 : so I'm pretty much even more unstable than the Gemini sign alone. Though something at him makes me want to take him in.

According to his birth chart ( http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1296344017 ), he pretty much has all important planets in Capricorn - Mars, Venus, Mercury and the additional spiritual Uranus and Neptune). I haven't met a character with so many important planets in the same sign as the Sun. It's quite fascinating, because he indeed seems like a full-on if not exaggerated Capricorn - quiet, with no apparent figure expression, his most frequent words are monosyllabic, he sleeps a lot, has fixed conceptions and goals, unadaptive, very shy, doesn't know how to receive compliments. I almost had the impression he was an alien in a human body which wasn't capable of emotions, even though he has some friends, include me. I can't picture him even having the slightest hots for someone. And I know this is a specific trait, but the reality I'm seeing is, you know, appalling.

I do know that Capricorns are said to be born "old men" and die like children. Their growing process is reversed, I see how serious he looks, though he might not really be that mature inside. It's like whenever I see him smile or laugh, it's a success, some proof that humanity has hope.

It's fascinating, he's not my type, yet I'm absorbed by this figure. I know they seem like vegetables in normal situations, but radiate when they do what they love and that's what I saw when he played the guitar and bass - he literally-figuratively was radiating. So I know they seem very indifferent and locked inside at first, but get loose once they know they're on a safe zone with you.

You could see just how different we are, his party is all in one place, my party is everywhere rocking the house, if that makes sense (I'm talking about the charts). Sure, it's a hazardous idea for a relationship, but I'm interesting in uhm, give him that push to loosen up and have a real friendship. There have been slight breaking of his rules when he miraculously moved his **** to my desk and shared his songs with me, but such a rule breaker happens like once in a week. I should show him respect, but he's such a doofus when it comes to compliments. How could I make him loosen up and be good mates?

AND I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE HIM, I want him to tear down that fence he has. I've not been mean or inappropriate with him

 

As a Capricorn myself, I can relate to this person to whom you are referring. it takes quite a bit of effort to get through the layers of mental armor; even I have trouble getting through my own.

just remember, if you've worn a suit of armor your whole life, it's scary to leave the suit behind, even temporarily. However, once a certain level of trust has been established, it'll happen automatically in what you so succinctly termed a "safe zone". the goat is ever a cautious beast, often verging on paranoid. take your time. for the time being, if you want to see more of what's behind the fence, seek out the safe zones; it's very difficult to show that level of vulnerability in public, where there will always be strangers who are not necessarily worthy of the level of trust that you will hopefully attain.
don't tear the fence down. ask him to let you in.

 

do you people really believe in this?

 

Capricorn sounds like a gay-ly attired foot ailment.

 

lol whether or not astrology as a concept passes tests of skepticism is entirely beside the point. the point actually is that it gives a set of useful archetypes through which a personality may be considered.

also, last I checked, this particular subforum is clearly labeled "astrology" (just as the psychic forum is clearly labeled "psychic"), leaving the obvious question: why the hell do you click on these particular forums, naturalphilosophy? do you like playing devil's advocate, or do you redirect frustrations in other parts of your life onto people online whom you have never met and will probably never understand?
all in all, I find your trolling obscenely annoying and will dedicate future responses to your posts to ripping you a new one in the highly public forum of the internet, which would be a lot easier if you were to actually include content to your posts, rather than not-so-witty one liners.

 

where is the evidence for astrology?

what is this 'useful archetypes' babble? you think that because i don't know you that your ideas are not still dumb? do you really believe that stars and planets created your personality? where is the basis for this? any empirical evidence that might suggest that our personalities are determined by the heavens above? no, it's wishful thinking, a warm blanket of security with which to wrap yourselves in so you can block out the real world. keep relying on your ridiculous constructs. if that's what you need to help get you through your day, then more power to you. at least recongize that you're living a delusion.

and what makes you think i'm frustsrated? it's fun watching you weiners get all excited on an e-forum because somebody doesn't agree with you. go ahead and 'rip me a new one' bro. or, instead, you could answer the question: do you really believe in all this silly shit?

let the ripping commence

 

I'm sure a lot of your deepest thoughts and beliefs are pretty fucking stupid too buddy.

 

ya got me there. yea, skepticism must seem outlandish to the ignorant

 

Being rooted in skepticism to a certain extent is just spiritual(call it the human spirit if you must) laziness. A true skeptic also doubts the omnipotence of their own perceptions. Call a spade a spade, if you think you are knowing of things the rest of us feeble humans revel in the folly of then enlighten us, please.

What do we know about the true nature of the universe? We are of the universe, not above it or apart from it. How is it stupid to think that its turnings have some effect on us?

I don't expect that people are able to understand the nature of that influance... but justr throwing out blanket doubt at any concepts that you can not see is lazy, arrogant, and ignoriant.

 

you're accusing me spiritual laziness? haha. how do i respond to something so ridiculous? save the hippie mumbo jumbo for somebody who might take you seriously.

as you can see, i always ask for the proof of such claims and have yet to get anything substantial. there is just no proof of it. when i'm shown empirical evidence of the constellations controlling our lives, then i'll give it more consideration. until then, it's a bogus claim that dates back to our earliest (mis)understandings of this mysterious universe, and the idea only holds weight because it is a moneymaking industry.

:afro:

 

You're just another pseudo intellectual.

 

i'd rather stand with the so-called 'pseudo' intellectuals
than stand with the completely delusional people

 

What makes you think there's a difference?

 

I used to believe in astrology and had a career based on it. I quit that because I was only hurting people. How was I hurting them? By feeding them bullshit. After a while of doing hundreds of charts and analyzing "the future" and relationships, I realized how stupid it all really is.
I used many horoscope versions, ranging from Vedic to Arabic Parts, to Western, and so on.
I feel as though astrology is obsolete as of now, if you want to say "oh but how did it predict something that happened in my life?".
It's complete nonsense and if I have any advice to pass on to anyone who is gullible and "spiritual" or "superstitious"---yes that is the word!-- it is to NEVER believe or pay any attention to things that claim to be able to predict the future or to predict your personality.
All is a choice. Realize that and you will be free.
Then again, the people who fall for this astrology stuff like to be in chains and like to be in a sort of 'matrix', in which case, enjoy your limited mind and consequently limited world!
Have fun!

 

quote of the day.

people that can't figure out how to fix their own problems- the people that turn to psychics and astrological charts to save them from themselves- they want it. deep down inside, they want to be blind. they don't seek disillusionment, because if they did, they would have found it already, as it's right in front of their face- it's called reality!

 

I think it's funny that people who are just as ignoriant and helpless as everyone else still manage to throw stones.

Aw man you figured out the big mystery of life, one bullshiot story. Why don't you be a condescending douchebag about it?

 

all order is an illusion. however, human beings like order because it is useful.
a rational-number quantity has never been seen in nature. no particle physicist has ever seen an isolated quark. However, math is based on integers and other rational numbers, and most mainstream particle physicists accept the existence of quarks, without empirical proof.

on a sidenote, bullshit makes the flowers grow, all things are true (including false things), and everything takes a form that is somehow appropriate to the number 5.
I hereby solemnly swear, flying baby shit.

btw, the delusional ones are more fun.

 

to believe is to assume to be true.
to disbelieve is to assume something to be untrue.
as truth and untruth are not useful concepts to me by themselves, I am neither believing nor disbelieving, and, as both belief and disbelief always deny evidence to the other, I deny nothing.