New study - cannabis increases chance of psychosis

Discussion in 'Medicinal Cannabis and Marijuana' started by walsh, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. slappyman

    slappyman Member

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    This is from the article put out by Reuters
    Here is the link to that article http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41464598/ns/health-mental_health/
     
  2. Meliai

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    It is old news. I learned in high school psychology, back in 2002 and using a textbook that was a couple of years old, that mind altering substances, including alcohol, can speed up the onset of schizophrenia.
     
  3. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    Then it is indeed new news, because your 2002 textbook conflicts with this new research with regard to alcohol.
     
  4. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDK9QqIzhwk"]YouTube - Bon Jovi - Livin' On A Prayer
     
  5. stinkfoot

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    IMHO it does not qualify as news because I believe it to be propaganda and bullshit. It belongs in Pure Bull as far as I'm concerned.
     
  6. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Good call stinkfoot;

     
  7. guerillabedlam

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    Lunaverse in regards to that highlighted part about causation... I've already touched on that, no research is going to be ethically allowed to find a causal relationship between marijuana and psychosis. A researcher cannot do a study where the intended outcome may be psychosis, especially in this pc age. So expect this 'old news' debate to carry on for a loooooooong time.
     
  8. lunarverse

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    Why's that?
     
  9. guerillabedlam

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    The most blaring obvious reason would be lawsuits from the research subjects or their families, usually it takes appealing or funding to certain higher ups and no professionally run organization is going to want to make their organization look bad by having a study like this, even if it were possible.

    Please refer back to page 1 if you need to know what would need to take place for a causal study as I can't copy and paste atm and don't feel like repeating myself.

    I.E. Higher up= Ethical board in this case among who know what else
     
  10. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I understand. Thanks
     
  11. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    That brings up my original question which no-one has answered: what possible study would convince you to stop smoking?

    One of the sort guerillabedlam mentioned would but as it's unethical it won't happen. Also some sort of new disease or brain damage found only in those who have smoked would most likely convince me.

    I'd like to think it's possible to base our use on scientific evidence as we do all pharmaceuticals, and not justify our use by our habits.
     
  12. Meliai

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    I personally do base my use on scientific evidence. When I first started smoking I did extensive research on marijuana and how it effects the brain. My conclusion was that the benefits outweigh the risks and the risks don't really bother me.
     
  13. slappyman

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    I'll answer your question, at this point in my life I really don't think I would stop because of some study. I enjoy cannabis, it helps me to relax, unlike when I was younger I don't feel I need to smoke all the time and I don't. I only smoke when I feel it is appropriate.

    Each person has to make that choice for themselves. Weigh the risks and the rewards. We all do it everyday with everything. I guessing there's a study somewhere that says if I eat a chocolate cake everyday there a chance I'm going to become overweight with all the proven health risks to overweight people. It's the same with alcohol and cigarettes which by the way I used both but have quit because I didn't like how they made me feel not because of some study.

    Don't get me started on pharmaceuticals.......
     
  14. vigilanteherbalist2

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    this revelation isn't a new one, to my knowledge.

    but, there's no way i can believe it until there is a control mechanism enforced. thse people could be smoking pesticides and not know it.
     
  15. Mollycule

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    "But the causal relationship between cannabis and mental illness is still unclear, according to Phillip Mitchell, head of psychiatry at the University of New South Wales."
    So pretty much what there saying is that they dislike marijuana so much they made a bullshit study to scare people (the ones that would believe it) and posted it. As a long time cannabis user and medical patient i have never seen a case of mental illness occur from marijuana. As a matter of fact i think that it keeps me from going insane sometimes haha.
     
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