Whens the last time you did it? how did you like it? what was your dose? tell me a bit about your last trip.
my opinion is that i need more than 25 mg to trip edit: the last time i did it was on july 18, 2010 - the only time i did it. it was nice and mellow. slight color enhancement, and CEVS i believe, but i'm not remembering well. i went for a bike ride in the cemetery. wasn't really visual at all, but i had a "body buzz" and felt a slight head change of some sort. definitely lighter (at 25 mg) than probably 2 grams of shrooms. the last two times i've eaten an eighth of shrooms have been kinda dark, weird trips. i gave away my last eighth.
30 mgs was a good spot, mixed it with 250 mgs MDMA at a Tool concert. Very amazing evening. Its like a hollowed out shroom trip to me, more manageable in certain aspects and different.
last time I had 4-aco-dmt was 35 mg in june or july. wonderful trip that helped me straighten out my life and truly make some adjustments for the better. I believe 4-aco-dmt is a true psychedelic tool in the right setting. I agree with GBL that mushrooms > 4-aco but 4-aco is still a very good teacher if your willing to learn.
4 aco is much more manageable than mushrooms in my opinion. The last "intense" experience I had was with 36 mg. I had full blown ego death and what felt like mutiple peaks. It was pretty intense.
4aces is manageable until its not, and then it's trouble it's the only psychedelic that has consistently given me difficult trips. the only one. in fact 90% of my difficult trips on psyches were with 4aces. It is straight god powder. It will seriously mess with your head though, in ways only the good ones can. i wrote three trip reports for this one, here they are chronologically http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=378869&f=126 http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=383816&f=126 http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=400366&f=126
^^^i was waiting for your 2 cents (that 4-aco-dmt is serious stuff) so floes, what about you? you've tried it before right?
4 aces hits incredibly quick. I'm sure some of it is placebo cause you have an expectation of what to expect but nonetheless it is very rapid. Besides large doses of L, its one of the faster hitting chemicals I've fortunately come across.
Its interesting you mention this cause I felt that way too. The first time I tried it I did it rectally so its not really a fair comparison but that 30 mgs oral seemed to come on pretty quick for a psychedelic.
yeah ive done 4-aco-dmt. i felt like, its like a mushroomtrip with out the body buzz, minus the physical aspect and all the mental aspect. i was always a huge fan of 2c-e and 4-aco-dmt it was a beutiful comination. i always felt like the 2c-e gave me alot of acidic visuals, runny twirly. and the 4-aco-dmt gave me alot of trails and color. so the combination of the two would give me these. runny twirly colorful trails. it was a great experience. i got mine from nsd back in the time and id be set off good with 14-25mg.
yeah, i agree with you. my worst trip by far was from 60mg 4acodmt. it turned negative fast and then it spiraled out of control after i smoked a joint to try and relax haha. even after the effects had faded i was still very shaken until later the next day. i was at a festival (bisco)
My last experience with 4-aco-dmt was 60 mg. I took it after drinking about 3 beers on an empty stomach so i had lots of nausea and vomiting and intestinal pain for most of the trip so it kind of ruined it, but besides that it was cool. Except, its not very visual to me even at 60 mg and it makes me feel kind of tired and lethargic, which I dont like. I think if this were combined with some E or something a little stimulating, even a more visual hallucinogen it might be more enjoyable for me. It has a pretty strong body high, which is ok but I dont really care for it a ton.
i should just make it clear that i did have a great time on it - the trip was just mellow. outside in the summer was a nice setting, so i agree with sam^^^ floes, you're good with 14-25 mg 4-aco-dmt by itself? or do you mean with 2ce? what was your dosage for that combo? 4-aco-dmt made me lethargic and yawn a lot
On 16 mgs out in the woods.. most beautiful thing I've ever seen. 20 would ahve been better in retrospect but eh
