I apologize if making another thread on this chemical annoys anyone. I am trying 2C-E for the first time tonight; within the hour. Do you all have any suggestions on dose or any advice? I was thinking of going with an epic dose. I am now thinking about the 20-30 mg range, which I know can still be intense and is not to be underestimated. My plans are to have a few Alan Watts books handy, my art book and Pi on the tube with a glass of pomegranate juice at my side. I have a relatively empty stomach. How long do you expect it to take to kick in? I may update at the night goes on. Thank you guys for any advice.
Have a good trip, man. Make sure to listen to some music, at some point, because music is fuckin amazing on 2ce
i took about 20-30mg oral (in a capsule) last weekend and felt a definite onset in less than 2 hours. hadn't eaten for about 3 hours previous to ingestion. full effects manifested around 3 or so hours. this wasn't an overly intense dose for me. overly intense for me was 55-60mg oral, 5-10mg nasal (T+ ~3 hrs), which was the first time i ever used 2c-e. effects lasted 18+ hours. would not recommend this at all. having seen the movie Pi before in a mostly sober state, i couldn't imagine it being a positive experience on such a serious psychedelic. but this is just my personal opinion. it may open some worthwhile doors for you peace
If it were me, I'd just lay down in a dark room with some nice music playing. That's how I've always gotten the most out of 2ce, whether it be on 30mg or 60mg. Being outside at night is wonderful on 2ce, as well, especially if you can have some music outside with you.
2ce is creepy as fuck. I never thrown up on the occasions I've done it but every time I'd get the feeling I had passed somewhere rolling in piss and puke while people laughed at me, weird eh? Then later I'd figure out the answer to everything in life, figured it all out but forget it every 30 seconds or so...
I have some chills and excitement. The chills are the only thing that seem unnatural. I burped about 15 minutes after the capsule and it tasted like the taste I remember from 2C-P.
How long has it been since you dosed? Listen to this performance by Jimi Hendrix/Band Of Gypsys after the trip kicks in really good. It's probably one of my favorite things to listen to on 2ce. It goes really well with the "electric" feel of 2ce. When the guitar solo starts, your mind will officially be blown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4WqmWuqj-w"]YouTube - Band of Gypsys - Machine gun
I like 25-30mg. But here recently I took 25mg's then after 1 hr i took 10mgs and did that for 4 hrs. I was totally retarded... i tripped for about 16 hrs. The visuals where great but i believe that you can only have so much visuals with this chemical until you hit the top. then you just extend the duration and the body load of your trip. Unlike acid you take a 10 strip...you find yourself listening to the beatles magical mystery tour album in the car on loop. as you watch the trees in your neighbors yards ice skate around the houses and exchange words with other trees. Infact i had a tree that was leafless next to the car and i then thought that every stick man you draw on a peice of paper comes here to be impaled once you throw that art into the trash... ah the good times.
no. my username is a vaginal exercise... lol but it is spelt different lol the name keagal is a name for my WoW character >.<
It is hard to put a finger on this one. With tryptamines, I can see how the depletion of what I percieve as my self makes for profound psychological effects. With 2c-e, I had visuals and psychological effects that I have not had from other substances (I think this has been established by other members who have tried 2c-e). I looked across my room. I knew my birdcage was on the other side of my room. It looked more like it was a reflection in a lake at arms length (as if I could reach a few inches infront of me and disrupt its image in the water. There were, what seemed to be perfect, triangle patterns on every surface. The surfaces were also breathing. One distinct visual I noticed was subtle purple streaks in mid air. The body rushes/buzz is something I have felt before, just not this strong. I have felt this feeling while baseline numerous times. This rush was much stronger though, and was felt in mor eplaces of my body. When I went to my room, I made sure it was as dark as possible. I fell on my bed and closed my eyes in absolute silence and darkness. This was during the peak. I heard all sorts of noises. It sounded like Robert Fripp and Rick Wright were holding a concert in my head. I don't know where those noises come from, but they were entertaining. They seemed to coordinate with my CEVs. I traveled through different levels of CEVs (multi colored lines that made up countless geometric shapes as well as green static electricity looking 'stuff') This close eyed adventure truend into something like a dream. It seemed like I was out of my bed and when I opened my eyes, it seemed a bit like I was waking up... with one majoy difference, MY room did not seem like it was real. It was almost like I 'woke up' into a dream. It did not look too different, I just did not feel as I was at home, let alone in my room. It seemed like I could talk to my subconscious during this state. I was asking it yes and no questions about myself. I don't know if this was just a delusion, but it seemed genuine. I then started to ask it questions about the non-self/outside world. I do not remember what amounted of this. It is sort of difficult to remember like a dream. Back to the come up and start of the peak in my living room... At certain times, I felt like I could do anything. It was like I knew I could do whatever I wanted in any facet of life, but it would be on me to deal (or get away from) the consequences. This was an odd thought. I had other psychotic thoughts. While I was texting a female friend, I felt like each letter I chose was like choosing to jump off of a 60 foot cliff into the ocean. The moments between letters felt like I was on the edge of a cliff. An unexpected reaction... Many members have praised 2c-b for its sexual/erotic effects. I experienced some things that I would consider to be sexual/erotic on 2c-e. Namely, I had a very strong primal urge to have sex. There was some of this during the come up and a lot more on the come down... even some into the next day. I think it may have put me on a certain sexual wavelength for an extended period of time. I was getting, what seemed to be, more looks than usual. In one class a girl infront of me was rubbing her foot on mine rather intently and twiddling her fingers behind her ear a lot (may have no relation to the foot thing). When class was over, she got up and left quickly while smiling at me. This stuff NEVER happens to me, although, I currently have a pretty good lady friend whom I just met. Maybe that has me more confident and the confidence is giving me better body language. The most noticeable traits besides the visuals and body rush, to me, was the constant thought of "t=none of this seems real." Things seemed like how dreams are demonstrated on television... if that makes sense. That is about it for now. Thanks for the advice and suggestions. I want to try a higher dose (this was just under 26 mg) soon.
YES! the body rush i get on 2ce is what i imagined ecstasy to be like. ~150 mg of mdma didn't make my body feel as good as ~15 mg 2ce. there's been several times on 2ce that i've felt rushes of euphoria from just running my hand under water, or washing my face. and noises (music for me) correlating with CEVS! laying down in the dark with music has almost always led to a narrative dream-like experience. like being told a history lesson by the music, which seems to have been written just for me at this moment. 26 mg is a heck of a starting dose. i've yet to reach that level after ~19 trips on it
I almost did not mention this, but I figured that there is no reason not to be open and honest. I also took 10 mg 2c-e and 7 mg 4-aco-dmt this morning. It just supplied a very groovy feeling with heightned senses and vibrant colors. It was somewhat of a waste. I should have waited until I could try this combination at higher respective doses. It's okay, there will be a lot more opportunities.
it may just be me, but i wonder if there is a small addictive quality to 2ce? when i first got mine, i certainly tripped on it too often (like twice a month at least for a few months)
The interesting part is the music was coming from inside of my head. It was somewhat like what I imagine some schizophrenics might experience.
