So is my bad acid trip coming back to haunt me, or am I just insane?

Maybe if OP was 45 and having problems with depression, a nice large dose of acid, good OR bad trip, might be good. But OP is 15 years old, and (this will sound offensive, but....) LIkely doesn't even know what true depression feels like. Depression isn't "waaahh I dun feel happy for no reason, I need drugs to make it better", depression is "I don't care. I don't care enough to get high, I don't care enough to kill myself, I don't care, I hate it all and would die, if only I didn't have to get out of bed to do so"

OP does not need to get high to feel better, and SHOULD not get high to feel better at 15.

Why is that a reason to trip while young? Tripping lets you see that again when you're older, with some substances and some people, but OP is young, OP is tripping on life, OP is going to rape her brain.... There's plenty of time for that in a decade, no reason to start now.

 

I already rep'd you for this just wanted to publicly state it

 

It's not the age, it's the responsibilities that come with it. Some people are going to college at an age, or leaving it, or getting a real job, or getting married. These things greatly change the normal persons' way of thinking. So yeah, it's possible that you jump from irresponsible stoner to rational thinking adult.

 

Your mind is more expansive when you're younger and there are more doors to be unlocked

The older you get the more centred and structured you become. As I said before, when you're younger your further out so tripping during that stage is better. Adults use it to become children. Young folks use it to travel.

Also, another reason is that you learn things on acid and shrooms and dmt and whatever. So therefor you won't have to wait until 25 to learn them and you'll go through most of your working life with those new ways of thinking which makes for a better person and adulthood :sunny:

 

Things can mean more if you actually learn them, instead of taking a bunch of drugs while young, so you feel all "enlightened" and shit. That just makes you turn out like the first poster quoted in my signature.

To a point, the older you are, the more psychedelics mean. They let you reconcile things that you don't NEED to reconcile when you're OP's age.

 

So what your saying is that you shouldn't use psychedelics as a way to seek out new meaning and you should use them just to get fucked up?

Tsk tsk tsk.

 

Kids are already naturally in a very psychedelic mindstate... or actually, it's the other way around, many psychedelics bring you back to a childlike mindstate once you're an adult. Besides the fact that drugs WILL have some (probably negative) impact on a developing mind, it's utterly pointless to give psychedelics to a child, who is already naturally tripping in a sense. The things you learn from psychedelics (wonder, awe, harmony, unity, what have you) are things kids already know. They may not apply them in everyday life the same way as an adult would, but they are already experiencing these things whether or not they are aware of it (I think in most cases not, otherwise we would never allow ourselves to grow up)

Those doors never go away man, they become harder to find with age and jaded life experiences burying them further in the back of your mind maybe, but it's whether or not you choose to open them up and step through once you're an adult... with or without the aid of drugs.

 

I completely agree. All I was saying is that they're easier to keep open when you know they're there. I'm not saying you should trip off your nut everyday, I'm just saying you should dabble with psychs and shit so you don't become some hard-ass before it's too late :2thumbsup:

 

I don't think I could possibly disagree with you more.

Oh, and can we get some scientific evidence in this thread that doing drugs at 15 damages you more than 17- whatever? Not trying to be a smartass, but every time I try and google this topic all I get is a bunch of people asking if smoking weed stunts penis growth

 

Ex-fucking-scuse me? If you have a problem with taking psychedelics to get fucked up, then you should not be advocating a 15 year old taking them. She's going to fuck herself up in a bad kind of way, and waste good drugs doing so.

OP shouldn't be seeing any kind of new meaning, she should be building her ORIGINAL meaning, and with real life.

You have some reading comprehension work to do.

How do you disagree with me? Psychedelics let you see things more as you did when younger, among other things. There's no REASON for OP to take them.

The fact that psychedelics, and drugs of any sort, can fuck you up, at any age, is well documented, even on HF among users who admit to all sorts of serious problems because of them. And we can plainly see that OP is not prepared for them... And if you think depression at 15 needs drugs....

Some of you people don't seem to have known people who tripped/smoked daily/the like at this age... I have...

 

Ex-fucking-woaaaah buddy! No need to get so touchy.

I don't have a problem but try saying that here and you get flamed. Who're you to say what she's using them for?

She should be? Says who? You? Who the fuck are you? There's no real way to live your own life and you have no right to set restrictions and guidelines for other people.

There are some 25, 35, whatever year-olds which have the mindset of a four year-old but they still take psychedelics. Age isn't something that matters, it's your mindset and I suggest you adjust yours.

 

Here's some real hippie wisdom on this subject.

If you can't handle your shit don't do it. It is that simple. If you have a bad trip and can't handle Psychadelics then don't do psychadelics. If you then start freaking out when you smoke pot then don't smoke pot. This isn't fucking rocket science.

When I was about 18 I smoked some pot that was laced with PCP. For a few hours I was convinced that I had auditory hallucinations and was convinced I was possesed. The person I was with was a roomate who could take hallucinagens without hallucinating and was the kind of person that if I told him I was having a bad trip would have responded "Buck up you fucking pussy". Long story short I quit smoking pot for a few years. Got into meditation and got my head into a better place. When I was about 30 I took a hit of acid at a Phil Lesh show and it was a great mind expanding experience. Eventually I got back into smoking pot and it agrees with me now. I smoke a couple of hits a day and honestly I don't like smoking myself retarded but it helps with back pain.

Anyway OP if weed isn't agreeing with you right now give it a rest. If it is a permanent rest then so be it. You don't have to hand over your Hippie Card and become a Young Republican. You can just be you minus pot and psychadellics. Get your head straight then try smoking again and if it still doesn't agree with you then it doesn't agree with you and so be it.

Stay Brown,
Rev J

 

Okay first off - why does anyone -need- a reason to do anything? I do shit because I want to and I don't need any complex spiritual reason for dropping a hit of acid to get a life changing experience that I learn something from

Secondly, I'm asking for the science behind how drugs fuck up your body more when you're 15 versus 17-whatever age. I'm not saying drugs don't have any negative effects, I'm saying that they probably do the same amount of damage to a 15 year old that they do to a 17-whatever year old and until I see some proof your argument of "you're still growing" just isn't good enough

And thirdly - I've been smoking daily since I was 14 and doing ridiculous amounts of mdma/mda/dxm/honestly whatever the fuck I could get my hands on and I'm a shitload more productive than people I know that have only done weed and still don't smoke as much as I do

 

I can't give you anymore rep but,
:2thumbsup:

 

I didn't say psychedelics fuck up your body, they do very little damage to that.

Taking things to get fucked up is fine, IMO, but I'm sitting on the fence, beating back the people who say the OP can take whatever she wants to be spiritual and shit one one side, and the people who say she can get as fucked up as she wants on the other side. Those are both reasons to take drugs, and fine reasons. And for the reasons I've already explained throughout this thread and her other threads, these are not reasons that should apply to her, at this point in her life.

And about what you did when, some people are just more productive, or handle things better. Old news. The OP is obviously NOT your type. (no offence OP... it's not a bad thing to not be able to handle drowning in chemicals all day)

Kamran, Who am I to say what she's using them for? I'm a poster who read the OP say that, that's who I am. You're trying to blur the issue. Of course there are people who are not mature enough to take psychedelics ever, and of course there are people who are mature enough when they're 15. That's totally beyond the point, we're not arguing in general, but in this one, very specific case, that has been detailed for us by the OP.

 

I wasn't trying to blur the issue. All I said in the beginning of this whole thing was that you should be focusing on her being depressed rather than 15.

 

It would help maybe, if someone would tell me something that actually
HELPED my situation, instead of starting arguments about your
opinions and quickly made conclusions about why i do things, and
how mature I am....

 

If it doesn't feel right - don't do it.

 

My deepest apologies, but to be honest that's what every single thread on this forum turns into usually by the third or fourth post

 

^ Agreed.

Plus, I already gave you my two cents when this whole ting started

I think you should just stop smoking for a few days and see how you feel. If you still feel shit then it's not weed so keep smoking if you want. Shit man, even if you do feel better you should smoke something and see if you get reverted back to feeling insane.