Remembering the Bhopal disaster.

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Zonk, Dec 3, 2004.

  1. Zonk

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    It's twenty years since the disaster. People are marching in remembrance and to highlight the fact that Union Carbide has still not bothered to clear the toxic mess left behind.

    Some things never change. Fucking capitalist scum![​IMG]

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4064527.stm
     
  2. TreeHouse

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    Thats what big corporations are like as in the documentory film "The Corporation". Self serving, greedy, unsocially responsible and environmentally careless.

    Communism has the answer though nationalise all corporations and businesses and place them under democractic workers control with a plan of production where they can be used to create wealth and goods for the benefit of all.

    I doubt if your anarchist simplistic ideology of destroy all corporations go back to small scale collectives would work though. Not unless you envisage future society are a collection of small autonomous communes growing all of their own food and supplying all their own needs as Green Anarchist Magazine suggest. But then for that to happen 90 per cent of the world's population would have to die out first as modern society is so large that it can only feed and provide for itself effectively by large scale industrial farming and manufacture.
     
  3. Zonk

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    Please don't patronise me about Anarchist thought Herr Baumhaus. Coming from a man willing to sacrife working class people on behalf of Imperialism....you are a fucking joke!!:rolleyes:

    And stop derailing the threads you smeg.
     
  4. DoktorAtomik

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    Yeah, TreeBot. You're the very definition of a troll. Zonk posted a thread about Bhopal and you're trying to drag it off-topic into a discussion about political philosophy. And please, don't try lecturing anyone here about anarchism. We don't need lessons from an democro-communist child killer ;)
     
  5. Zonk

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    You notice he never hangs around for more than five minutes? Got his trolling art down to a T!
     
  6. Claire

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    It's terrible, and the fact they are still having to fight for compensation is so unfair, it's a further kick in the teeth. :(

    Love Clairexxx
     
  7. TreeHouse

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    No on behalf of democracy not imperialism!

    Back on the subject of Bopal obviously their directors need to be brought to justice and brought before an international court. But everyone needs to work towards that goal of getting justice instead of just complaining about it.
     
  8. matthew

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    Who is every body angry at here ??

    The government of Madhya Pradesh

    Union Carbide
     
  9. DoktorAtomik

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    And there was me thinking oil might have something to do with it. Obviously I'm not up-to-date with the latest democro-communist thinking.

    PS. Troll ;)
     
  10. Peace-Phoenix

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    Hmmm, he actually had a sensible point here, let's not deride him too much. There is some merit to the idea of nationalised industries, corporations have no sense of responsibility. Whether anarchist or communist (and I'm somewhere between the two) corporations do need to be controlled by the people and for the people, with a view to equality and democratic ownership....
     
  11. DoktorAtomik

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    He had a point that was worth discussing. It was, however, a tad out of place, and combined with a patronising dig at Zonk's political beliefs. As such, I put it to you that it amounts to trolling ;)
     
  12. Col

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    tis a great example of how we bow to the multinationals. They are the true rulers of the world.
    Treehouse, How can bhopal be used as a discussion of the differences/merits of capitalism and communism? How communism would change huge corperations is another topic, one full of thought and ideology and action if you feel so, but at the moment it is purely speculation. What happened at bhopal has happened, is in the past, is still affecting peoples lives today, and we have to deal with that today, in this world not an ideological one.
    So, surely the topic at this moment is how our oh so great society fucked up with this thing, how we in the west are responsible and owe a lot to the people of bhopal?
    union carbide should be brought to justice over this.
    BUT! in the west we allow money to bastardise politics - in the US more than here admittedly, but we are still part of it - and we allow multinationals to rule without rules. We live in a society that is proped up with more sweated labour and slavery on a global scale than has ever existed before. It is a foregone conclusion then that disasters like this happen and no one takes the responsibility for it. In fact it is a wonder that we havent had more. So, with this in mind, we are all responsible for this disaster. It makes me feel very ashamed.
     

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