Preperations

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by tristantene, Dec 19, 2010.

  1. tristantene

    tristantene Guest

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    Quick rundown-
    I've recently come into posession of a gram of 20x salvia from salviadragon, a stone/wood pipe, and some pipe screens. I'm preparing for my first tripping experience (only used cannabis and alcohol before), and I have a few questions which I can't seem to get straight answers to.

    First off: How much should I use?
    In my research, I've heard anything from 1/20th of a gram to an entire half bowl (!). I realize this depends on body weight (165lbs) and metabolism (heavyweight cannabis user), but I can't even get a rough calculation... considering that using less can result in a waste, should I just go ahead and pack a bowl's worth and see what happens? From what I can tell, going overboard can't really cause all that many problems, since in my research the consensus seems to be that all psychedelics reach a plateau of some sorts where it's not possible to get any higher. Couple that with the fact that I've heard salvia dragon's stuff is weaker than other companies', and I think I've got a pretty safe bet. Of course, I could be horribly wrong, and that's why I'm asking you lovely folks.

    Second: What can I do to prepare for this trip? I'll have a (trustworthy) sitter who actually spent much of her youth babysitting acidheads as they rode leaf explosions in the sky. I'll be in a relaxed state of mind, with no recent trauma in my life (unless my entire family drops dead between now and next monday). I'm fairly sure I've done all I can mentally to prepare for this, but since I'm inexperienced in psychedelics and in fact have never done anything stronger than a little granddaddy kush, I'm not sure what to expect.

    And third, on a more experimental note:
    Where should I trip? All the bad trip reports I've heard were without fail indoors, and I think that may have something to do with the constraining aspect of walls. On the other hand it is - pardon the expression - "Cold as balls" here in new england, and I don't want to freeze to death either.

    That's it. I've no further questions and I leave it up to this community to provide the answers I seek. Good luck to y'all, and happy tripping.
     
  2. WinterWizard

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    Tristantene, here is a link that covers dosing amounts:

    https://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=17079

    Also, when SWIM (Someone Who Isn't Me) starting using salvia, he experienced a reverse tolerance, that is to say that the more he used it, the more easily it affected him. If you have subpar results at first, keep trying, but don't go overboard with dosages to compensate because you will most likely pay for it.

    SWIM has found that a dim room with no music or sound disturbances whatsoever is the best environment. And while SWIM doesn't feel the need for a sitter, he certainly recommends it until you know how salvia will affect you. Some people lie still and have a peaceful trip, others jump to their feet and run around like a chicken with its head cut off.

    Tell your sitter not to laugh or make noise or engage you in any way unless you appear to be about to harm yourself or property, etc...

    SWIM found music to be a distraction, but some people like it. SWIM also thinks lying down is better than sitting.

    For your first experiences, SWIM doesn't recommend doing it outside.

    Hope this helps. And SWIM hopes he wasn't too late and you ripped huge hits of 20x and freaked out.

    Also, right before you start smoking, remember to remind yourself that it's a drug and it will only last 5-15 minutes. Whatever you do, don't fight it. That will only make things much worse. Go with it. That's all you can do. As long as you are expecting something intense and strange, you should be fine. Be ready for anything.
     
  3. guerillabedlam

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    You should probably try to get a bong or bubbler instead of a pipe. Putting no more than a 1/4 of a bowl of 20x should be good and take long rips and hold each hit in ~10 seconds after then go straight back for another hit unless you can't.

    There is no way to prepare for salvia especially if you have a breakthrough experience. Honestly the effects make a few hits of LSD look pretty tame so your trip sitter just needs to be there to make sure you don't hurt yourself, tell them not to talk to you until you are back from the trip. Indoors/outdoors doesnt matter much Ive gotten better visuals outdoors but you can be in a completely different world no matter where you smoke it.

    I apologize if any of this was answered by the above poster but I skip posts by people who use swim
     
  4. WinterWizard

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    Guerilla, salvia is not illegal in your state, hence no need to use"SWIM."
     
  5. guerillabedlam

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    I don't use swim when I do LSD, mushrooms or ecstasy either.
     
  6. WinterWizard

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    'Tis your prerogative. Nothing wrong with being safe.
     
  7. SalviaMart

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    Use no more than 1/10 of a gram for a 1st experience. If it is a standardized extract you should be especially careful as it will be stronger and easier to ingest. Salvinorin A also needs direct flame although does not require a butane lighter.
     

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