Who has done BZ?

I want to know about it :2thumbsup:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bz/bz.shtml

Thank you :sunny:

 

BZ? BZP??? what is it.

 

3-quinuclidinyl benzilate

 

It sounds stimulating and not too nice.

 

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=60851

Haha, sounds dumb to me.

 

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bz/bz_timeline.php

 

"deliriant, Dissociative Hallucinogen, Incapacitant"

no thanks

i just saw it lasts for around 70 hours? lmao fuck that shit!

 

Lol... 70 hour datura trip, essentially?

Awesome

 

Chemical weapon in Vietnam. See Erowid Timeline link.

 

I want to know about someone who has done it and not some strange military report

 

some strange military report? its a testimonial as to the effects, and a history of the weaponization of this substance.
hey, have fun IMO, maybe you can follow it with some mustard gas.

 

BZ + datura + pcp + crack

the darwinflip

 

i lul'd. your right tho, natural selection at work

 

If I sat you down in a normal room telling you not to move and to take acid which you know nothing of you would percieve it in a completely different way. So what if it was a weapon? They used LSD as a torture. I also never said I wanted to try it, I said I wanted to know more about it. Now stop being so petty :sunny:

 

Ken Kesey did Ditran, which is similar I think. He was given it during the MK-ULTRA mind control stuff...said he always knew it was the Ditran when he saw thorns form on the blankets and threw up

 

I lol'ed.

About who's done BZ, having read a little, I think the only people who could tell you firsthand are older very select military volunteers, and possibly some north koreans (probably all purged by now) and/or viet cong. (couldn't really tell from what I read if this was ever really deployed?)

To totally clarify, this is a chemical weapon, and was developed and tested with that in mind. Yes, LSD can be bad too if used in that way, but i doubt this has, even in a good setting, many positive effects, it sure doesn't look like it.

Also, by the way (as I saw it mentioned in this thread), the use of the word incapacitant denotes it's military application. LSD, or even alcohol, could be used in a similar fashion. While this substance doesn't look to have any recreational value (unless you find 70 hours of hell recreational) the word just denotes this drug as rendering the enemy combat ineffective.

If you want a 70 hour trip, DOM ("stp") would be the drug for you.

 

TNS?:devil:

 

Lmfao haha

active at 10ug??? Dayum

This sounds like the worstest X 70 hours X major potential for OD = Worse than I though possible. This is literally the worst chem I have come across now.

 

It sounds like a horrible time, but I don't think the safety ratio is THAT dangerous... for a "psychedelic" (sort of) it's dangerous, but it sounds like it fits more into a deleriant role, and that's a larger safety ratio than a lot of those have. Erowid says no one's ever died of it, and it looked as though it might have seen limited use as an actual weapon.... I mean, I'd rather have BZ sprayed on me than nerve gas... (assuming all the victims weren't just executed while tripping balls, and where just considered neutralized for the duration of whatever operation was going on)

*edit* and if you like hellish drugs and you do get nerve agent exposure, you can just take some datura

 

the movie 'Jacob's Ladder' is loosely based on those BZ tests in Vietnam