Thinking about a 4-aco-dmt/2c-e combo...

What do you guys think? How much would they potentiate each other? Doseage suggestions? Thinking about eating the 4aco about 1.5 hours after the 2c.

 

the closest thing ive done to this was a 2c-c and mushroom combo. i found taking the 2c-c about 1-1.5 hours before the mushrooms makes for a wonderful combo. the transition into the shroom trip is very smooth compared to taking mushrooms alone. 60mg 2c-c and an 8th of shrooms. i also tried this combo with the shrooms taken before the 2c-c, but i didnt enjoy it nearly as much. for 2c-e i found ~25mg to be a good dose. ive done mushrooms alot but never had 4-aco-dmt so idk what to tell you bout the dose there

 

I did 2c-i and 4-aco and it was the most difficult and physically uncomfortable trip of my life. Everyone's different so hopefully it will be better for you, but I would recommend only doing 15mg of each. They seemed to potentiate each other in all the wrong ways. The 4-aco took the 2c-i body load to a whole new level and it somehow lasted for almost 13 hours. I find that 2c's keep you firmly planted in your mind and ego, where 4-aco has a much greater chance of causing ego death and even though I was trying to relax and let go, the 2c-i was holding onto my ego and I felt like the rope in the middle of a Tug of War. It was very psychologically chaotic and difficult as well, but you might have a great experience. After mixing 4-aco with MDMA and with 2c-i, I decided 4-aco is best for me on its own, it seems to want to fight with other chems.

 

I've done this combo, at a dose of 20mg 2C-E and 30mg 4-AcO-DMT.
I made a thread about it here:
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=392269&f=126

The experience itself was very, very nice. I had a little bit of nausea, but it passed pretty quickly. I was at a concert, and I remember vividly that the whole arena felt like a fishbowl - very, very small and resonating.

I was having some very beautiful open eye visuals, somewhat like this in shape:


My only complaint was that I only got a few hours of sleep and had scholarly commitments the next day - I felt drained from the combo for a few days, probably coupled with the lack of sleep.

 

I have had this combo in mind for a while. I will be trying 2c-e for the first time in the next two weeks. I will get used to it solo before I try any combos.

 

Ive mixed 4-aco with MDMA, it was fucking magical. Don't know what it would be like with a more serious phen though. Sounds like it could possibly run into the same body tension and psychological tug o war SB described mixing it with 2ci. But I loved it with MDMA and I took full on dosages of both spread an hour apart.

The only advice I'd recommend is possibly stagger the 4-aco dmt even later, maybe like to the 2 hr. Mark that way you can come up on the 2ce and ease yourself into the trip. They should still last about the same duration that way.

 

sounds interesting. I'd like to hear about it if it happens

 

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Damn, I don't remember seeing this. How did you dose when you combined 4aces with MDMA?

I need to revisit 4aces before I even consider different combinations.

 

I consumed 4 aco and mdma...then went snowboarding. It was really fucking magical. I was doing the sickest carves, tree trailing, and then laying in the snow smoking bowls being one with nature. I just remember flying straight down a couple hills and on the third it dropped down over looking the entire resort/ colorado mountain range. I remember the super intense patterning and bending. Literally I dosed the four aces before I got onto the lift and as soon as I was down from the mountain it was complete videogame status. The goggles I was wearing and the tunes of 1200 micrograms made it even more so. It hit really hard really quick. The molly was taken after the first run. It was epic bonding with close friends. An adventure ill never forget.

 

I dosed 30 mgs 4-aco dmt then an hour later 250 Mgs MDMA. It was at a Tool concert. TR is in the psy trips group.