US Congresswoman shot, and condition critical in Arizona

Brainwash can take on many forms; drugs and additives in "food" (McDonalds), the media, politics, rhetoric ("America, love it or leave it"). Perfect example is that guy who shot those people at Safeway. He took Sarah Palin's and perhaps Glenn Becks' bullshit red-blooded American rhetoric too seriously. I think the government wants everyone to become really overweight, hence the shitty food they're feeding us, with diminishing alternatives due to regulations and "standards".

After decades (perhaps less) of being overweight, depending on the severity, many people become dependant on the medical corporation machine. Pills for insomnia, insulin, pills for chronic pain, arthritis, etc.

These people make money for corporations by being dependant on their "medicines" and their foods, etc. Corporate America wants to get rich on the backs of sick and unhealthy low/middle class Americans. They want to turn people into 'Cash Cows', like overweight junkies.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in no way insulting overweight people, I'm only saying that I think the government wants us that way so that we become dependant on them, thus making them rich, widening the gap between the rich upper class and the rest of us.

 

While commerce takes advantage of every opportunity the government prefers it's slaves to be super productive, so while marketers find their markets, the government encourages healthful practice. There is enough to be concerned over without inventing this motivation.

 

Really? Perhaps for its employees. The rest of us are treated like cattle. We're fed food full of bad things, giving medication with strange effects, financial benefits are withheld from the lower classes who need it, etc.

People with less income can't afford 'organic' food, perhaps they can't grow their own. All the shittiest food is the cheapest, leaving millions with the single option of eat crap or go hungry. I won't get into the pharmaceutical industry, that's another thread, but some of the pills some people are prescribed...many medications seem to only serve to counteract the negative side effects of other medications.

The corporations/government do not promote a healthy lifestyle, and they don't make it all that easy to live one given their standards on food production, medication, etc..

The only real healthy effort I've seen from the government is what they've done with cigarettes here in Canada. Inflating the price and covering the packs with disgusting pictures.

Anways, I'm off topic.

 

not entirely true, while organic food is priced a bit out of reach, perfectly good whole grains, dried legumes, and ordinary fruit and vegetables are cheaper than most ways of eating

the problem is they take time to prepare when one is tired from work, and do not taste like the things one sees on the television - and let's not get into the problem of feeding children

sorry about topic meltdown [yet again]...

 

Yea, people really need to quit doing that.





I'm kidding

 

lmao

 

Your second statement belies your first. You are presenting a slightly hysterical
position, one that does not account for all of the facts in it's assessment.

 

You're right. However I still stand by post #141

 

maybe he was a sexist pig who took his own, understandable, loathing for palin out on the next most convenient woman politician he could reach. i mean, it's just as likely.

 

I think he is a fan of Palin

 

I know there's something wrong when people are referred to as "consumers." Those who consume. Reminds me of those little Pac-man heads. That's about all we are to the money-makers. Kind of de-humanized.

 

Wasn't that statement the culmination of your statistics.
Are you saying, yes hysterical and damned proud of it?
They may be in collusion toward upholding commerce but I don't think there is collusion between government and industry to produce harmful effects in the population.

 

I understand your logic, but disagree.

A small majority need these medicines because of true medical effects.

Many people abuse these because they are lazy and care not to do things the right way.

I think its up to the individual to decide the right choices, no one has a gun to my head, forcing me to eat mcdonalds, If I eat it its because I choose to, then I should definably add more time to my workout to make up for it.

Stop blaming the government for your problems and fix it yourself!

 

Unless you know, the government is to blame for the problem.

 

^^^ did you want a comma between "unless" and "you know"?

two entirely different jokes, depending . . .

 

Here's the real contradiction in what I said. VVV

Government's/corporations do not promote healty lifestyle for the most part. Sure, there's advertisements paid for by companies where they pretend to have our health and interests at hand. How many McDonalds advertisements have you seen where they tell us how they only use real beef?

The line here is "Made with 100% Real Canadian Beef."

Real Canadian Beef is the company they buy their meat from apparently. We all know that it is not 100% real beef. They are lying. They are pretending for the consumer's sake that it is something relatively healthy when in fact it is not.

The government of Canada has recently imposed a new law where cigarette companies must cover at least 25% of the pack with the Surgeon General's Warning. So our government has made some effort, albeit a pretty weak ass one. This does not mean they promote healthy lifestyle. This means they cover their own ass by pretending to care.

I don't feel that I'm being hysterical at all. I'm just telling what I perceive to be the truth.

I don't agree. I don't think they conspire, like sit around in some bunker colluding as to how they can slowly kill us off. But the government protects the bad things corporations do, mostly through the standards and regulations they make law.

 

When you see it, you'll laugh

 

You're absolutely right. I was speaking generally, I acknowledge there are millons out there with medical problem who require certain medicines.

I was speaking more about conditions that can be attributed to the shitty food we're fed.

Yes one has the option to eat well. But if I want to eat a steak from the supermarket, I'm exposing myself (not necessarily by choice) to all the shitty chemicals and hormones in that meat. What other choice do I have? Buy organic meat. Do you know how much that costs?

As for medicine. If someone eats shitty food for long enough they're going to get overweight. At that point they may have asthma, high blood pressure, insomnia, sleep apnea, diabetes, etc. All of which require medicine that they wouldn't need if corporations would practice better food standards. The government could enforce better food standards.

One chooses to eat shitty food, but we do not choose to eat. We all have to eat. Vegetables- pesticides, bread- shitty additives, meat-hormones, additives, milk- hormones, additives...

It's to the point where it's hard to avoid these things. On top of that the government/corporations makes it harder for small farms to obtain seeds and enforces the use of certain practices.

End of rant

 

you always say it so... as it really is luna!... this is almost exactly as it is in my opinion... (except for the occult rituals that a small core practice, which if mentioned, makes one seem like a looney toon... that's all folks )

 

The purpose being to promote industry that supports people, not to harm people. In the US we have the EPA that imposes regulations that industry would rather not deal with. It is governments that are involved in fashioning climate change agreements. It is governments that require nutrition information on food packaging.

Regardless, the cynical view does produce excitement.