methiopropamine

it's about to be released by a few vends, and it's a meth analogue with apparently identical / similar effects - watch the domino's fall, however I'm damn excited.

mephedrone blew a huge blow to the market, I don't imagine this will be any better if not worse.

what are they gonna release a heroin analogue now?

 

"There may be trouble ahead...."

 

Sign of the apocalypse.

Give me forty units, and I'll turn this rig around.

 

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your referring to o-desmethyl tramadol that was sold by the rc Walmart? I never knew it was carried still, along with that fentanyl analogue.

 

Should have me a free sample on the way. Anyone know what a standard (eg no tolerance) oral dose of it's evil twin crystal meth might be?

 

None at all.

 

Probably a sensible dose. Definately going to wait for some reports. If it's anything like mephedrone there's not much point, haven't had the desire or need to do that since the ban.

 

Desoxyn doses are in the single digits, although recreational doses are often MUCH higher. Of course this is almost certainly racemic, would which assuming the same rules apply to this as meth would reduce the potency by about half. I'd start at 1 mgs given how little is know about this and the tendency of UK rd vendors to stick any white powder they have in a bag.

Or just slam a quarter and see if take apart you neighbor's lawnmower.

 

Yeah it's racemic. I don't even know what that means but i know that much. I was thinking of re-painting my living room...

 

these things are composed of two isomers, which the simplest way to explain is think of your hands-they're exactly the same, but a glove will only fit one. In meth, and presumably methiopropamine as well, one of these is the active one. However most meth is the active isomer only, because the cold pills it's made from yield only that. Racemic means a roughly 50/50 mix of the two.

 

be sure to report back how it goes! im extremely curious about this one.

a solid oral dose for meth would be around 20-40mg if it's good purity; snorting it would be more conserving, fun, and efficient at getting spun at the level you want (though beyond ridiculously easy to overdo if the fiendy-ness takes over your rational thinking which happens frequently).

i imagine this stuff could be smoked like ice, but I would seriously NOT go there as you're bound to do a binge if you smoke it.

 

I found an interesting little article about it (at least partially) here:

http://countyourculture.com/category/compounds/

 

very good read. they better not come up with a dumbass fucking nickname for this one like they did with mephedrone (meow meow) - education will be the key for this, but that will come with the price of the media catching on very quickly of "legal meth".

 

I'm not sure about this AIRCR thing with the trademarking of names for chemicals. It's supposed to be helping stop dodgy vendors selling rubbish as other chems but i would've thought they will anyway and just name them something very similar to the trademarked one. Guess we will see...

 

Tried a few methods of taking this over the duration of the night. It's not blowing my mind but haven't any negative effects yet.
Will fill in with more details once i've had a sleep (hopefully!).

 

So i tried this on Saturday night / Sunday morning and i'm not impressed to say the least. I still feel ill now and it's Monday afternoon! :sick2:

Initially tried 100mg up the nose, felt like some decent speed but nothing more. Tried 20mg vaped, same results. Finally tried 100mg bombed and the results were no better, just kept the speedy buzz going. All these doses were spaced out by a good 3 or 4 hours. The vendor i got it from is very reliable and professional, so should be no issues there regarding purity etc.

Now comes the fun part, i'd say the comedown was about the worst i've ever experienced (and i've done a gram of MDMA in one session), especially considering how moderate the high was. Sickness, chest pains and my heart rate was really high during the experince and also until i went to bed at 11 the next night. Also couldn't eat which isn't going to help with feeling drained. As i say, i'm still feeling a bit sick now.

In conclusion, really not worth it. i have to assume real crystal meth is a much better high for people to get addicted to it, i flushed the last 280mg which is the first time i've ever flushed anything. I'll normally give stuff away if it's not my thing, but i wouldn't wish that comedown on anyone.

 

Edited this as it wasn't very fair to the seller.

 

possibly do you think the reason it was so bad was because you redosed so many times?

while its definitely active when you snort it or eat it, everyone on bluelight is saying it needs to be smoked to get any good euphoria.

it's possible that since you only smoked 20mg in between the 2 x 100mg oral and nasal doses you did thats why you thought the high wasn't that good, and from taking 220mg of this there's a definite reason you felt bad.

I've never done 220mg of meth in one night (and never plan to) but that's an insane dose.

but considering you said youve done a gram of mdma in one night and this comedown was worse, well thats pretty un-inspiring for this chem.

 

maybe you're right, and also i might've just been lucky to rarely get ill off anyhing i've taken. I just didn't expect such a nasty comedown for sucjh a small high. First time i tried LSD i felt utterly drained physically and mentally after but it was definatley worth it.