Im interested in what made you want to start using opiates and feel free to share a little about your first experience with them or not even necessarily the first experience but the one where you just knew this was going to be your class of drugs. Ive used hydrocodone a few times and oxycontin once and percocet once but besides the one oxy experience I've yet to really see the appeal of this class of drugs as a recreational/spiritual/functional high. For instance The appeal of experiencing hallucinogens is obvious to me (not necessarily saying everyone enjoys it) and I can understand the appeal of stimulants as well but I have a bias as those are the 2 classes I use mainly. Alcohol, ketamine and ghb seemed like more efficient drugs to 'check out' on so what draws you in to opiates and keep coming back?
I seldom use opiates. But what makes me want to use them is that warm cozy feeling. It's very euphoric. Everything is just peachy, you feel great physically and mentally. I dont consider it a drug to just "checkout" on, although you can. It just feels really good. My first experience was with pain pills. Friends in high school would share pills (percocet, vicodin, oxy) if they hurt themselves and it just made school so much more enjoyable. It enhances everyday activities without effecting your ability to perform them. I hurt myself once, got surgery and was on oxy and percocet for a few months. They got pretty old after while and I just stopped filling my script. A couple years ago I randomly acquired 4 grams of good black tar heroin. I only smoked it off of foil and it lasted me about 2 weeks. The high I got from heroin was probably the best I've ever experienced (not tripping, just a high. Psychedelics don't count). That's why it's so addictive, it makes you feel so gooood. I decided not get more when my stash dwindled. I could see how people could become completely immersed in using it, and I didn't want to go there. I tried it, it was amazing, if the oppurtunity arises I might indulge again, but Im not going to seek it out. I prefer the opiate high over cocaine. I've never tried ketamine or ghb.
i use to roll hardcore my tolerance for that was building up n i wass gettin stupider n stupider from puttin holes in my brain i guess ?? so my friend gave em an oc 20 and i popped it coming off a roll and it was the best feelin in the world, better then the opiate or rol itself but combined .. i started using it regularly a little more and now i can admit i'm a drug addict .. it sucks but being addicted to opiates is no joke, the lows you sink to etc etc ,, i wish i only did it occasionalyl or for recreationall use but now i need it to feel normal and avoid withdrawals ,, especially being on 60+ miligrams everyday for over a year ... now i'm broke and every paycheck from work goes to support my habit ,, terrible thing but what can u do
I love them, do them too much tho. I feel like I can do anything I want when Im high, I can walk up to anyone and start a deep connecting conversation, things that would be extremely hard and uncomfortable when Im sober, are extremely easy and fun when on opiates. You cannot compare drugs like opiates to psychedelics tho. Completely dif nature.
^^x2 The only times opiates would appeal to me now would be to chill out with on a Sunday afternoon for the above reasons though i tend to give them a wide berth these days.
My first taste was about 10 months ago (49 yr old), recreationally. Friend gave me a couple of 5mg percs. Wow, what a beautiful feeling. While they can be classed as a HIGH, I was only use to a little weed and mostly booze. This picked me up, allowed me to accomplish stuff i normally wouldnt feel like doing. This is the "Lazy Persons" drug of choice. It does however turn you into someone you are not. That, on top of its addictive properties, makes it satans mixture for the middle aged, nothing going in in your life kind of person. Of course opiates users come in all diff shapes, sizes and ages. But I would bet they are most loved by the 40 years and up people more than younger. Its just that you wont normally see the aunts, uncles, grandma, grandpas, moms and Dads hanging out on msg boards discussing their drug use. And fuck, what a great Weight Loss product.....LOL
I've been off and on with them for over 10 years. It started actually as just experimentation, I would take 2 10mg percocets and drink a few pints of ale when I was 15. Now I'm 25 and struggling to stop. I've cut down from 150mg+ a day (Oxy and all derivitives) to about 60mg of Methadone a week (off the street) and am trying to stop all together. Several broken hearts, felony charges, prison vacations, acid and psilocybin overloads in between now and then kept me upping the amount and increasing the dependancy. Probably the moment that I knew I was fucked was after coming down from a mushroom trip, in which my opiate problem was dealt with, and eating 120mg of Morphine and driving to the beach. That was when I was 21 years old.
wow sometimes i wonder how i ended up where i am. when i was younger just started railin a few perc10s here and there with friends. then discovered roxi and oc and did em under control for a little while. kinda got my heart broke one day and started doin more to make it thru the days and the next thing i no it had me. its all really a blur though. i wouldnt ever guide somebody to end up like this. ive tried over and over to get away and i always crack. shit sux when they run out and they always run out unfortunatly.
I was given codeine cough syrup as a 13 year old and entered, for the first time in my life, a time of peace and comfort from the horrors of the world. I still find opioids to be the only drugs able to do that.
Nope. Anything will do really. I am currently going through WDs which really sucks but it could def be worse. I didnt think i was doin enough to get WDs but I guess I was wrong. I was doin roxys for a while, like once a week, and then a few times a week. Then my dude stopped selling them so I started doin dope like twice a week 3 times at most. Its the dope that gets you sick real quick. I wasnt usin needles or anything, but the whole thing is just fake and not really worth it. Im really anti social without them, and I hate this, but I have always been. I guess just being able to fully socialize with anyone was what got me.
Opiates are appealing to alot of people because they give you a very pleasent sence of euphoria and general well-being without the anoying stimulation effects of stimulants. They never make anyone have a bad "trip" and its just a feeling unlike any other drug.
bingo.., didnt think anyone would get it.. You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to guerillabedlam again..
Opiate use for me started as recreational. Nothing particular lead me to them other than curiosity. I enjoyed the feeling and did them when i could get them, didn't actively seek them. Opiates are a problem when you start to use them to deal with emotional pain or to escape your reality.. this eventually leads to addiction, then your fucked.. The situation or pain or whatever it was you were to weak to deal with in the first place is now worse, cause all that shit will still be there if you decide to face it plus the fact that your addicted to opiates. Or you say fuck it and just go full junky status.. Either way you end up in a worse situation then your started. The other problem is tolerance, especially when added to the above. You start out small, you love the high so you do it again.... Then the high isn't the same, so you up your mg. Then if you don't take breaks and get rid of your tolerance, you start to realize 2-3 80s a day is too expensive, some people realize this and stop there use, but then WD come. And if you continue to do this heroin is inevitable because of how cheap it is. And if you snort heroin enough your going to lose that high due to tolerance, then comes the needle.....fuck. As long as you can manage to avoid all that, there a good drug, but lead most down the wrong road. Heroin was my favorite, but uh, there is no such thing as a recreational heroin user, or at least not for long.
my opiate experience is pretty much like yours, GB. ate a few hydrocodones in my day, hydromorphone twice which was pretty intense, "opium" once, and snorted a few mg of oxy once. never enjoyed it enough to pursue them. stories of and friends with addictions were a good reason not to.
I was in a car crash and the doctor fed me them.:2thumbsup: P.S. They are oh so yummy!! P.P.S. @lol at this thread