A clockwork orange

Discussion in 'Classic Movies' started by THE_duder, Aug 2, 2005.

  1. CrystalRevelation

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    I just watched it for the first time two days ago and I FREAKING LOVE IT!! but like you said it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be...not as graphic as I thought it would be.
    I love the beginning for some reason the way they establish the feel of the film....I just love it, it's so different. and Alex's eyelashes are the shit.
    I'm really interested in reading the book now too.
     
  2. ishikabe

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    Saw it recently. very nice
     
  3. YourSoXCutThroat

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    I heard soo much about this movie and finally got to see it a couple weeks ago. Not quite qhat i was expecting but i LOVED it. Deffinately a classic.
     
  4. sandandocean

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    This movie is beyond amazing, so is the book.
     
  5. la Principessa

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    The book is so much better but the movie was amazing. I love fucked up movies like this. I even got my boyfriend and his family to watch it, and every time I talk to him he's like "I was cured alright!" he does quite an impressive Malcolm McDowell impression. I found it odd that they left the last chapter of the book out of the movie but I do admit I like the way it turned out anyway.
     
  6. Lumini

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    I really love the movie, but I've yet to read the book. I've heard that it's a difficult read due to the use of foreign slang.
     
  7. la Principessa

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    You know, it's really not that bad. I caught on to it pretty easy. You don't need to learn the slang to read the book. The context reveals the meaning of most of the words. If not right away, by the third chapter you'll understand exactly what's going on. Definitely a book that you can read several times and get more out of it each read.
     
  8. rak

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    I watched it during the previous weekend. It was just ace. I like the part where the violent character makes fun of this dancer's rude furniture by saying "Naughty, naughty, naughty." I still laugh when I think about that scene.
     
  9. Laz777

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    the book as published originally in the UK had four sections of seven chapters apiece, each one beginning with the line: what's it going to be, then?

    the US publisher refused to publish it without the last section removed, after Alex's "cure".

    Kubrick's movie is based on the US version of Anthony Burgess's novel, which as stated by someone else in this thread, was hated by the author, but likely he enjoyed the cash.

    the movie, even using the abridged US format, is sheer genious, Kubrick at his best.

    the book is better and most copies include a "dictionary" of the slang terms used, which was Nadsat, based on Russian.

    if you want to find out more behind the film, check out this on youtube:
    A Clockwork Orange Documentary "Great Bolshy Yarblockos!



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LwWnJnoGQU
     
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    I found the film to be quite inconsistent with the book. But for those that didn't understand the end, Michael reverts back to his old ways, hence the sarcastic, "I was cured,"
     
  11. CallMeIshmael

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    Timeless, for sure. I was listening to the 'Singing in the Rain' rendition from the film when I saw the thread. Great stuff.
     
  12. MSRosetti

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    Where was it banned? I watched it several times over the past few decades (in the US). Even Netflix/Blockbusters had it.
     
  13. MSRosetti

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    I think the message in this movie was that no matter how mean Alex was, the state in the end was far meaner to him. The solution was far worse than the problem it sought to solve. Just like the "war against drugs" that causes tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths every year.
     
  14. la Principessa

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    Anyone who read the book knows the real message intended by Anthony Burgess.

    You can't have good morals by force. You have to choose to be a good person. Otherwise, you cease to be human. You might as well be running on gears like a machine. That's where the title comes from.

    SPOILERS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T READ THE BOOK

    In the final chapter that wasn't included in the movie, Alex was cured of his forced goodness and upon witnessing how his old friends had grown up to have families and live respectful lives, he realized that he had also grown and his goals for the future changed, he wanted a real life and to be a good person. By his own accord this time.
     
  15. shoeless joe

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    I have seen the movie and read the book and they are both good in their own way, but I like the book more than the movie. That might be because I read the book before I saw the movie and so what I imagined when I was reading the book was different than how it was portrayed in the movie. What do people think is the significance of all the phallic imagery used in the movie?
     
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    It's a neat movie. The book is alright too. The movie is fairly faithful to the book. The book is written in the same slang used in the movie. I though it was interesting when I was younger. Not really interested in watching it again.
     
  17. Emanresu

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    Honestly although it is spelled out more clearly in the book I thought this was fairly obvious in the movie (I saw the movie before I read the book). And the author doesn't seem to have had too high of an opinion of his work in this case. I love the title though. The title basically says the same thing that the entire book/movie portrays.
     
  18. shoeless joe

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    What is your interpretation of the meaning of the book and movie's message?
     
  19. Spagelo

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    It was fun to read the book after. There's a lot of things there the film doesn't really touch on.

    "Walking the dark chill bastards of winter streets after ittying off from this chai and coffee mesto, I kept viddying like visions, like these cartoons in the gazettas. There was Your Humble Narrator Alex coming home from work to a good hot plate of dinner, and there was this ptitsa all welcoming and greeting like loving. But I could not viddy her all that horrorshow, brothers, I could not think who it might be. But I had this sudden very strong idea that if I walked into the room next to this room where the fire was burning away and my hot dinner laid on the table, there I should find what I really wanted..."
     
  20. 6-eyed shaman

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    The soundtrack is amazing in this film. Lots of symbolism and cryptic elements in the movie that make you wonder what they are there for, until you think deeper and realize the deeper meaning. I even had a 6-eyed clockwork orange avatar up for a while that I made myself. I might switch back to it again someday.
     

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