Piracetam Log (because there isn't enough of them out there)

I'm going to start taking my piracetam today so I'm figuring I'll try and keep a, lets say 2 month log of it's effects on me and then if anything ever changes beyond that I'll add to the thread later.

Section 1 - Before Piracetam
Today (December 2, 2010) I am feeling very tired as I only got 3 and a half hours of sleep the previous night.

Background before piracetam....
1. I am both physically and psychologically addicted to caffeine and consume on average 500-700mg of caffeine daily.
2. I feel my best with 7 hours of sleep.
3. I smoke weed 2-3 times a week (as of late that is).
4. Actively attending school (depending on how things go, I'll let all of you know how it helps/hinders/does nothing after I start to notice effects).
5. I do other substances as well, at given times, so I will post the effects when I do (as piracetam has a reputation for potentiating various substances [mostly stimulants and psychedelics].
If there is anything else about my background that you feel relevant to the piracetam, just comment below.

Day One...

Well today, I'm really tired, but I have a pretty busy day going on for me, so hopefully this takes the edge off, I decided I would skip dosing caffeine today to make sure I don't possibly mix up any of the effects (which means I currently have a pounding headache....)

2400mg consumed at exactly 1:08 PM with food, will update within the hour of the effects (or lack of).

Side note, I have some choline bitartrate expected to arrive in the mail at approx. 5-7PM, but I probably wont take any today, that will be added into the regimen tomorrow.


UPDATE: @ 2:35 I'm feeling pretty damn good, like I just had a great day, even though I didn't have any day out of the ordinary. Music sounds better for sure songs that I normally don't care much for sound pretty good, this was the first thing I noticed (at around 2:00). I just pounded out some homework too. Haven't had any contact with other people yet but this will be changed shortly. On a side note, how long has the background for hipforums been red? I just noticed this when I signed on to post back how I was feeling. I also just noticed that I'm not having to go back and re-read things anywhere near as much as I usually do. No other effects noted though. But really, how long has Hip forums been red? It used to be purple right?

Will update tonight.

End of the day: So I biked for about 30 miles after I made my last update to go buy event tickets for a event this weekend. It was actually a really enjoyable experience for the most part. I noticed I found things more beautiful than I normally would, especially the sunset (I normally find it beautiful, but in the middle of a highly populated city, its not very appealing). Only bad thing about the experience was some jack off turned in front of me as I was about to cross the street (I had the right of way, the white man was walking!) and I had no other choice but to slam on my breaks, which I was going at far too fast of a speed to do this safely, flew into the middle of the crosswalk and got pretty damn cut up [a side note, it didn't hurt in the slightest bit until several hours later when I finally got home, which normally it doesn't hurt badly until I relax, it normally has a throbbing pain though, which this time there was none to note]. I when I got home I was exhausted and hungry as a mother so I ate and wanted to sleep really badly, but if I want to enjoy myself this weekend, I need to finish the rest of my studies for the week, so I took a additional 2400mg and 150mg caffeine along with 500mg of choline at approximately 8:30 PM. I thought I was going to be well stimulated but I can hardly feel the caffeine other than slightly accelerated talking, bare minimum effects, but the second dose of piracetam seems to be helping me concentrate on my work despite the fact that I am tired. Looking forward to checkout out for the night.

Tomorrow I'll be dosing as follows... (Note that I have class tomorrow so I'll post if I feel that I am more attentive than usual, or anything else I notice).
Morning: 2400mg Piracetam
300mg caffeine
500mg choline

Afternoon: 1800mg piracetam (I'll be lowering my dose to 1800mg for normal dosing from this point on, except when my intent is to potentiate a substance)
200mg caffeine
(I don't think more choline will be necessary, so I'll leave it out of the mix for my afternoon dosage)

Nothing for the evening (I'm not sure how I'll feel on a normal night that I have'nt biked every bit of energy out of me, so this is subject to be changed)

PS : On average I consume around 500mg-700mg of caffeine a day, so I figured I would start low, and see how that treats me, if the piracetam really does potentiate caffeine, I'll probably end up dropping down to 400mg a day, which would be nice. I am adding this to the background up top as well to make it easier for new readers.

If anybody has any questions feel free to ask.

 

Hmmm, is Piracetam like Aniracetam? I used to take Aniracetam before LSD or DMT to smooth out my Corpus Collusum, LOL - to increase inter-hemispherical communication in my brain lobes. I think it worked too well. I don't take it before tripping anymore, especially if I want to avoid the super-intense, introverted ride . . .

When I took the Aniracetam without dosing psychedelics, I found that my amount of writing increased copiously for the day - like 8,000 words plus, etc. It just seemed to increase overall locquaciousness (potential Bushism here).

 

They are relatives, I know that, similar in effect, I don't know the specific effects of aniracetam, but here is a basic overview of the effects of piracetam that I have gathered...

Light/Mild euphoria all day long / mood lift.
Increase in thinking speed.
Increase in understanding.
Increase in creativity.
Increase in appreciation for music.
Colors are supposed to be more vivid.

Will update right now with the effects I'm already feeling. Works faster and better than expected. I thought everybody was just shooting hoops about it, but it really does work.

 

Piracetam, interesting...

Little side effects.. you are using this to stop your caffeine addiction?

 

Lol no, caffeine is my love man, but I actually do see racetams (probably not piracetam , maybe another racetam, though for a more addictive substance than caffeine) may have potential to aid in breaking a addiction, after I took the piracetam I didn't really have too much interest in caffeine (even though I ended up dosing 156mgs a hour or two ago, but I have just reason for this...) I am going to post my end day result now.

 

Although this is kind of off-topic, I think you should really quit the caffeine (altogether for a couple months, and then only take a little once in a while), I used to be heavily addicted to caffeine and quitting was hard but of all the decisions in my life I've made, quitting caffeine has to be in the top 3 best ones - mental clarity went up say 500% within 2 weeks of quitting, my mood lifted, I had a lot more energy, my sleeping pattern improved, etc.

Now I don't avoid caffeine completely any more, but I have say a coke or a coffee once or twice a month and that's about it. Oh and a little chocolate of course.

-- Anyway, I know that's kind of off-topic but I thought it was relevant since it seems part of your reasoning for taking Piracetam is for the brain-boosting effects, and I think, in my experience, Caffeine will dramatically hinder those effects unless you give it a proper break for at least a few weeks.

Glad to know the Piracetam is working well, I'm very much looking forward to reading a report when you combine it with psychedelics - I keep hearing that the combo is a great one, but having not tried Piracetam myself I have no idea how it actually affects the regular psychedelic experience.

 

Day 2...
I don't think I can accurately report on the effects today, my entire body was sore and I slept like shit last night (because of all my injuries), had to have woken up at least 15 times in my 6 1/2 hours of sleeping. I was both physically and mentally exhausted today, this may be caused by the choline but at this point its too early to tell. Because I felt so shitty I didn't have any caffeine today, experiencing the aftermath of that contributed to the tired and grogginess, so today I can't really accurately tell how the piracetam effected me, also I only took 2400mg in the morning with 500mg of the choline. I decided to skip the afternoon dose because tomorrow I will be going to a rave and will be testing piracetam's MDMA potentiation. Will report back on that on Sunday, my plan is as follows.

2 hours before I eat the MDMA (tested tablets but, fast reactions, and phenomenal reports on pill reports) I will take 4000mg of piracetam along with 500mg of choline. I will start off by taking 1.5 tablets, then once I'm coming down off them, take another 2 (though this plan is subject to change). I am a fairly experienced MDMA user (but I have never abused the substance and still have my "magic") so I will be able to adequately identify the potentiation if there is any.

About the caffeine, I think I may take your advice about quitting the caffeine addiction, not caffeine in general, I'm not ready to let go of my baby quite yet but I definitely want to aim to make my weekly dosage 500-750mg as opposed to my daily dosage. I think I can honestly say, at this point I prefer caffeine over weed, as I feel much more productive and "normal" (most definitely due to the addiction) on it.

Can't wait for tomorrow, will report back as soon as I can.

 

Very interesting topic. I was wondering about this myself. Can't wait to hear your latest report.....:sunny:

 

First of all I would like to apologize for the delay (one week to be exact). This is not going to happen again (hopefully).

I'm going to condense the week into one post and I won't be following my normal format as that would take far too long, and obviously I haven't had that much time on my hands as of late.

MDMA Potentiation : Last Saturday 4 people including myself went to a rave. Rave was a disaster, two of my friends got in while me and my other friend where stuck outside. We all dosed 4 grams of piracetam at 2:00 PM, the two friends who got in dosed 2 clean pressed tablets (feeling lucky, estimated dose per tablet was ~80-90mg MDMA), they were as they reported "severely fucked up, far too fucked up to even know well the piracetam worked" which would lead me to believe it did it's job, even though the dose of MDMA was quite high. My friend and I unfortunately didn't have the same experience... we got stuck outside and swat and heli's rolled in to get the outside line to go home (fucked up event meant for 15,000 venue it got changed to only supported ~6k people) right as we were approaching our peak on 1 1/2 tablets (rolling pretty hard to be honest, I can only imagine how hard our friends inside where going). I'd like to note that I have never had a bad trip on any substance in my life (have had a couple slightly frightening moments but never really bad trip level), but this was horrifying it felt like all the positive emotions in me where fighting with all the negative emotions and they kept stabbing at my back and my neck, along with a very very dark feeling in my stomach, and for the cherry on top, this horrid synthetic feeling of happiness. I never thought my first bad trip would be on MDMA, of all things, but oh well, it was manageable. Needless to say, the experiment was inconclusive, I will retest on a future date (with exact doses though). The day after I took my normal doses of piracetam, I am normally one to feel a kinda bad comedown, but the worst effect I felt was a wee bit of lethargy and at certain points of the day I was easily annoyed, I had to study and my studying seemed only slightly impaired (normally I can't focus at all).

Following days, throughout the week, I was still a little lethargic up until Wednesday, on Thursday I felt better than normal, and on Friday I felt excellent, and my ability to focus was phenomenal, which is rare for a Friday, overall I am still convinced the piracetam has had a effect on me but the events that occurred make this uncertain, there was a improvement worth noting though. Today was great, good mood, focus was great, motivation was great.

On a side note, my attempts at cutting down on caffeine failed. I believe they greatly contributed to the lethargy. I was also hungry all the time, even immediately after eating a full meal, until I gave up and dosed again (on Thursday). I now know that quitting this addiction is going to be harder than expected and I'm going to really have to be motivated to drop the habit and right now, I feel I'm better off with it than without it.

Once again I am very sorry for taking so long, I've been really busy, from today on, a daily report will be made.

 

DAY 11...

Today was a average day, didn't do anything that required much thinking. Had far too much caffeine though, spun myself out, which really takes a lot for me, not feeling very good right now. Going to sleep.

I have noticed though, piracetam does not potentiate caffeine for me at all. I figured the caffeine potentiation was a placebo anyways though as the pharmacology of caffeine is not really like any other stimulant, so I couldn't really see the piracetam doing anything to it.

 

Interesting experiment and thanks for logging it out like this.

from my perspective of reading this it seems you blew your piracetum load on that first day unfortunately. I was very curious about this stuff after that first report but the following reports make me not exactly eager to try the stuff. Good thread tho!

 

I used to mess with piracetam, still have a few grams left. stuff is expensive but it did have a slight nootropic effect I think . . . hard to tell if it wasn't just placebo though, I do recall it having some dramatic effects on MDMA potentiation, prolonging the peak and making it cleaner and such.

 

Day 12...

Last night as I was laying in bed, imagining anything that comes to mind like I usually do. I noticed that I was imagining things in much finer detail. Generally my thoughts are quite abstract, but this was like 1080p abstract imagery (I saw like a close up of the side of a woman's face in the night who's head was all the way up in some clouds that were swiftly brushing against her cheek and then swooshed into and through her hair, that was slowly flowing with the wind, it was actually a very peaceful image, I was able to see down to the tiny pours on her face, and noticed how all of them so close together created the illusion of a flat surface, and the clouds had a mental "feel" to them, almost as if I could breathe in the full deep, heavy but cool air. [like a cloud would be].. It was really something, as never in my life, even as a child have I been able to visualize anything beyond fuzzy ovals and circles and such. I visualized something else today as well, though it seems whenever I realize that I am visualizing it fine detail, the detail immediately fades away.

Guerilla, it most certainly is worth it in my opinion, it has helped me and my mind does feel noticeably more clear, but I do with every day was like the first day. I don't quite understand why it happened that way. My appreciation of music has probably been the most effected thing apart from the lessened MDMA comedown. I feel I started it off quite poorly to be honest, I first started it 2 days before I tested it with MDMA, which turned out being a horrifying night. Then I had to deal with the MDMA comedown, while trying to quit caffeine. I went about three days without any caffeine consumption, that is going from 500-750mg/daily to 0mg/daily, so I of course experienced withdrawals. I gave up on quitting the caffeine and now I'm noticing the positive side effects of the piracetam again. I do appologize for starting off the experiment so poorly but now that everything is back to normal, I do feel the piracetam is having a positive effect on me, though I think I might need to increase my dose from 2.4 grams/ 2 times daily to 3.2 grams/ 2 times daily, I really would like to see those day one and day two effects again in their full power.

Mr. Writer, it can be found VERY VERY cheap on the internet, I'm not sure what you mean by expensive.

 

Day 13...

Today was another good day, I changed my dosage from 2.4g in morning and 2.4g in afternoon to 3.2g in morning and 2.4g in afternoon. I found this to be a successful modification as I felt motivated to do things (something I didn't feel before), and for some reason my chest area feels "cleaner" it's hard to explain but I liked this increase a lot so I'm going to keep it at this. This being finals week, I had a successful day of studying. I think dosage with this compound is very user-dependent, I may experiment with higher doses next week, but I'm going to keep it at this dosage until this Sunday.

 

Day 14... + Two week benchmark review

Well, ultimately I decided to go with 3.2g twice daily, I am near total satisfaction, so tomorrow I'm just going to jump up to 4g twice daily, my reasoning is that at 3.2g twice daily, I felt more motivated than before, but not enough motivation to act on it, though very near, when it came down to the last minute, I chose the easier route of procrastination (a VERY VERY VERY huge problem for me) I will sustain this dosage for a week and see if it keeps its effects stable, if it does, than I will keep it at 4g twice daily, if it does not, than I will most likely jump up to 4.8g twice daily, and from that point I will probably make a large leap into the 6-7 gram range and see how that works for me, if it doesn't work I will deem piracetam of little value, I most certainly will check out other racetams though, there are noticeable effects, but I haven't fully decided if they are worth it (I typically don't like the regular consumption of anything regardless if it's deemed safe for daily use or not, except for caffeine, but that just a little problem child I have a deep love/hate relationship with) I have really been noticing I have been feeling much more motivated, unfortunately, I haven't felt motivated enough to fully act on the motivation, so I feel a higher dose SHOULD put me where I would like to be.
One more thing I've noticed over the last two days, could be related might not be though, lately I have had 0 tollerence towards stupid/ignorant people and people who like to waste other peoples time, I've felt like "I got a list of things I need to do, and I want to get them done in the shortest amount of time possible, and your dumb ass is getting in my way!"

Effects after two weeks of use...

1.Increased appreciation for music.

2.Pot does not feel more "lucid" for me than it did before, it feels just the same, though it might require a little less for me to be where I like to be (I only like being buzzed lately, to the point where I could do anything that I would be able to do sober, just as easily, in just the same amount of time) though this could be caused by the fact that I haven't been smoking as often either.

3. More motivated, but not enough motivation to make much of a difference.

4. Typically in a better mood

5. Colors have not really appeared more "vibrant" as others have said piracetam can cause (though as of today, I'm questioning whether it makes edges seem more defined or not, not psychedelic or anything, just more pronounced, a higher dose should tell).

6. Anything else I may have mentioned above that I could be forgetting (heh, too tired to make sure I got everything, sorry).

 

If you consider 'I got a list of things to do... And your dumb ass is getting in my way' is considered a better mood, Id hate to know what you were like before pirecetam.

 

I really never like to deal with dumb people. Typically I'll directly call them out on it, so at least now I'm only thinking it. It's not even really dumb people that piss me off, its dumb people with big egos (most dumb people I've encountered). I stay relatively quiet and kept, I don't boast around about things I know, and I most certainly don't try and puff out my chest because I can do something that somebody else can't, but when somebody who is quite frankly stupid, is trotting around doing something like that, it really grinds my gears. Living in California as well, I would expect that you are well aware of the abundance of those kind of people we have (In the southern area I mean, I really like Norther California, so many nice people up there).

 

for some reason I can't get onto hipforums on my home comp anymore it says unable to connect. I went to a friends house to let u guys know, but I won't be able to update my log until I can get back on my home computer, sorry. If anybody knows what might be causing this please post in here. Https doesn't work either. Nor does using google to link to hipforums. Ill try and check back in a couple of days if I haven't got it fixed yet. Once again sorry.

 

If it's a cheap "great day" in powder form, why would you see it as of little value if it doesn't do MORE at higher dose? And why wouldn't you at least keep it around for a BAD day?

I've never even heard of this stuff, I'll have to look into it. My cognitive functioning went down noticably within a few months of my being diagnosed with diabetes, as I later found out happens with a lot of people, and while I've read there isn't much of a sustained decrease after that, and the first few months are when it happens (been years, maybe gotten a bit worse, but it leveled off, for sure) but I'd like to get back anything I could.... Plus, either way, we can all generally use a pick-me-up sometimes... big test, sleep well and take this stuff, etc...

I'll have to look into it, and maybe pick some up.