Nevada Court Rejects Womans Cannabis Use

Nevada High Court Rejects CA Woman’s Appeal On Cannabis Use

I am not sure if this case was one of the recent where the new Draegor 5000 saliva test was used or not. IMO there are serious issues with that testing unit and its companies performance as well as ethics. I am investigating and will be providing more info for you soon. DD

This article from the 420Times magazine website found here:
http://the420times.com/2010/12/nevada-high-court-rejects-ca-womans-appeal-on-cannabis-use/

 

what the hell...the conviction isn't about finding marijuana on her person? its because they found it present in her blood?? what did they do, drug test her?? I don't even see how that can possibly be legal..

 

Seems like a fair decision. I don't agree that rules against permissible drug use whilst driving intereferes with the right to travel. Many legal and prescription pharmaceuticals such as opiates and barbituates make you drowsy and you driving under their influence is extremely dangerous. Seems the real issue is measuring the amount of intoxication, but I think cannabis should not be taken at all when driving.

 

Blood tests don't look for the volume of marijuana you physically smoked. . . they look for the levels of THC metabolites floating around in you, which should be a very accurate way to measure intoxication since THC is mainly where the high comes from.

You're probably right that the concentrations that will get you in trouble are a ways below what you need to get in you to actually feel something.

I had to take a drug counseling class a few years ago. The instructor told us that THC stays in your blood for about 24 hours, and I believe it. Yeah, I don't really feel HIGH anymore 4 hours after smoking, but I definitely don't get full use of all my mental faculties back at least until I wake up the next day. I didn't used to like to believe that, so I didn't, but thats just how it really is. I know because the thing that gets hit worst for me when I smoke is my social skills, which are much worse for the rest of the day after I smoke - long after I've ceased feeling high. My reaction times remain sub par and and I just can't think as clearly as I can when i haven't smoked in a couple days as well.

Even this seemingly insignificant part of the high is going to impair you slightly. Is it enough that you're significantly more likely to cause an accident? Probably not. Still, its not such a simple thing. How do you decide what constitutes sober driving or stoned driving in terms of THC concentrations in the blood? Somebody somewhere has gotten in an accident 8+ hours after smoking because they zoned out or didn't react fast enough as a result of that residual high. I'm sure of it.

 

Im sure she doesnt know how to handle herself very well anyways.

 

Frequent users(which I assume someone with a prescription is) can have metabolites in their blood for over a week.

No, not really. marijuana has no effects 8 hours later, it's too short acting a drug(at least when smoked). If someone crashes 8+ hours after smoking weed the weed had nothing to do with it.

 

Yeah, what MadCapStoner makes sense if you smoke weed enough....when I read that I was like wow if someone zones out 8 hours after getting high they are freshly fucking dipshits or impaired by something else, perhaps even sleep deprivation.

As for the case, it doesn't seem fair, if she is convicted with being high and not possession, then this seems a sort of discriminatory and premeditated "law enforcement" for people who may be high, maybe especially even Californians.

 

Thank you all for posting. My real issue with this is, if that Draegor 5000 saliva unit was used IMO it is very unreliable, slipped its way through the National Transportation board etc. with out the proper testing and scientific evaliuation. DD

 

I don't drive but when when I am stoned I become more alert and my reactions are faster. Any law that stops people driving while stoned is bullshit.

 

No, not really. People still shouldn't drive intoxicated.

 

Cannabis isn't a toxin.

 

Fine, "Under the influence"

 

Why don't they bust people for driving whilst under the influence of cigarettes? They make you lethargic and dehydrate you affecting your concentration!

Fuck that.

Weed makes you do everythin better, and if it doesn't then you are a fucking MorON!

 

Driving is a right, not a privelage.

 

Drug users make me hate drugs

 

Does weed make you spell the word "everything" better? (or place commas appropriately?)

Do you write computer programs better when high?
Is a check book balanced on ganja more accurate than others?

Why don't we leave absurd exaggeration as a tactic to those opposed to MJ? Those who agree with me that the herb is a delightful plant, that should be legal, I think that we'll get further if we stick with the truth.

P.S. To those who "drive better when high", please demonstrate your skill at stoned driving at other times and places than the streets where I walk my dog.

(Puts me in mind of an ambulance driver who regularly worked while high, until he got a call to a car accident. The solo stoned driver no longer has legs. Ambulance driver now waits until he's off duty and not driving to light up. (The thread he posted should be the archives here somewhen.))

On the other hand, I've heard that "Marijuana is good for what ails ya'. And if nothing ails you, well it's good for that too."

 

Yeah, but the point is that metabolite levels show NOTHING about cannabis intoxication. They can show up for months, and depending on recent physical activity and body type, YEARS, in heavy (like medical) smokers.

 

I dont smoke in the cars , but i smoke before I drive plenty times. but truthfully if I know im to stoned to drive I will not.

I think its more dangerous to drive straight and pissed off than to drive stoned anyways.. I know a few goofy fuckers that dont do drugs at all. they get pissed off and climb into cars taking off into traffic not even looking., Seen one person pissed off back into traffic not even looking ( I though that one was toast, but it wasnt.. seriously has me scratching my head thinking wtf is wrong with these people. actually Im more scared to live around these goofy people than I ever was while deployed in iraq. Cant shoot at these goofs..
And how many drunks have driven into my woods and they worry about cannabis.?...