Usually unexpected sex is a euphemism for being raped, but in this case what I had planned on as a simple night testing 1 of the lesser used RCs that I haven't seen many reports about, with a couple friends with me to chill with. However one of the properties of flephedrone for me is a strong increase in sex drive. However, I like sex a lot anyway... so I am somewhat inclined to be influenced that way. Don't expect to get your girlfriend high on this and then have her beg for a gangbang.... (unless perhaps she secretly desires one.) It isn't the best trip report I've written, probably because I wrote it while intoxicated. Its only about 40% trip report and 60% about how I either want to or am having sex. I didn't even intend to have sex. The increase in libido was subtle too, at first. I didn't know it was influenced by the drug until it was too late and I didn't care. I wrote an extremely lengthy portion describing some of the sex antics I had tonight, while still high as a kite. However, looking back I excised that portion -- while it is all true, it reads like a poorly capitalized, poorly punctuated story from asstr.org. I did include it as an attachment here entitled 'appendix1', just in case some of you wanted to read it and chuckle, but I figured most of you wouldn't want to be spammed with it. I'll write the conclusion first. First, when one says flephedrone it isn't entirely certain what one is getting. Flephedrone as a trivial name has also been used to describe 3-FMC. However, I got a rather large supply of 4-FMC recently and decided to test it. As far as the physical stimulation, its about as stimmy as bk-MDMA or MDMA. However, it does not have that 'specialness' that makes these chems so wonderful. Euphoria is there in 4-FMC, but it feels slightly artificial. There is some fiending behavior with this, however compared to some other RCs like Methylone or MDPV it is minor. There were reports of vasoconstriction at higher doses, so I took an aspirin a few hours prior. Also, there were reports of bruxism. I didn't experience either, except slight feeling of vasoconstriction but nothing that I wasnt expecting or felt dangerous, however these side effects may become more apparent at higher doses. I would not recommend higher doses with this RC because of that possibility, and also that the toxicity of the chemical isn't totally understood but it is definitely toxic if you fiend it all night. Slight to moderate tachycardia, average about 110-120bpm throughout. No palpatations except during or after strenuous cardiovascular activity (like doing it Cowgirl Style.) All in all, it was kind of interesting. Worth a try, but there are much better diversions out there. It doesn't hold a candle to my old standby bk-MDMA. The log is below, while I excised most of the sex description it is still filled with a lot of references to sex and my various kinks and pervs. I guess it is a window into the pervy mind of a borderline dominatrix, though: Subject Chemical: 4-FMC, flephedrone (trivial name) Background on Subject A: 26 year old female, 163cm, 46kg last meal 22:30GMT Subway 6 inch Big Philly Cheesesteak with chipotle... Mmm delish Also participating, but not making notes: Subject B, A's roommate. 28 year old male, ~180cm, ~86kg last meal 22:30GMT Subway foot long Subway Melt Subject C, my friend. 29 year old male, ~170cm, ~80kg last meal 22:30GMT Subway foot long big philly cheessteak with chipotle... copy cat. 00:12GMT - ingest 325mg aspirin, tablet. reports indicate test substance may cause vascoconstriction. 01:48GMT - ingest 200mg, gel capsule 02:10GMT - vague feeling of something, perhaps imagination 02:27GMT - heart rate 96bpm, definite but slight altered state. stimmy. 02:31GMT - insufflate 25mg, no more should be tested. Taste down throat is fairly bad. 15 minute observations. 02:38GMT - note: never insufflate this substance again, the drip induces nausea in me fairly badly. no vomiting though. subjective description of taste: synthetic chemical and plasticy, which I suppose is not far from the truth. We put MythBusters on TV, B and C are drinking a beer. I am drinking orange juice so as not to affect the results. 02:40GMT - Both Subject B and C ingest 300mg, dissolved in small amount of ethanol (everclear.) 02:52GMT - heart rate 115bpm, slight to moderate euphoria, moderate stimulation. Sex drive increased significently. Nipples hard of their own accord (visible through bra and shirt to the amusement of B and C), am a little wet. Slight desire to grind on whatever I am sitting on. 03:08GMT - heart rate 120bpm, onset reported by B and C to be faster than mine, possibly due to ingestion of solution rather than capsule and or larger dose. B and C report strong sex drive increase as well. B and C recommend we watch pornography together, I agree only if I get to select the porn. Done. B is bisexual, C says he is straight, but I want to see if I can see boys kissing tonight. I select a video that starts with a het pairing but ends up with gay sex. As an aside, I probably have one of the largest collection of gay porn in the metro area. I love seeing pretty boys get fucked Plus I think C is secretly curious. 03:12GMT - Sitting in between them on the couch with the video playing on my 32" plasma. hard to write notes without them looking over my shoulder but I manage. Both B and C are visibly aroused through their pants. Already aware that B is well-endowed (8.5" for the record) but have no personal knowledge of C. Pleasantly surprised that it seems that C is if anything slightly larger. Hard to tell under clothes, but is promising. Glad I shaved my legs this afternoon and decided to put on my tarty panties and skirt. I tell them it looks like they're hurting themselves in their pants and I don't mind if they take them off. B just grins, C looks surprised. C has wanted to get into my pants for a while, but is rather shy. Confirmation of C's size, and appears about as same as B but thicker which puts him well above average. 03:14GMT - C surprises me by commenting that I'm the only one with all my clothes on and who isn't touching themselves. I surprise him by saying that I can masturbate simply by squeezing my thighs together. I tell them not to get too carried away because I don't want them to come all over my couch. Truth is I am close to committing to sex and I don't want it wasted Odd. I did not have any plans for this to evolve into a potential threesome. 03:16GMT - I am going to ask B to come help me mix a few drinks for us in the kitchen. Really, I want to inform him of my plan. I want to see a cock in C's mouth tonight and would like to lick cum off his lips 03:20GMT - heart rate 116bpm, come back with drinks. B sits next to C and I sit on C's other side. B and C inquire if they should ingest any more of the substance, since I did a two dose approach. I only have 125mg left with me. I say they could insufflate some, but warn them of the nasty taste. Both agree and I prepare 50mg each. The last 25mg looked like it would be a waste, so breaking my note earlier I also insufflate 25mg. We pause the porno and sip our drinks. Both B and C stay very hard. It is cute to see a hard cock flopping up and down when a guy walks. Heh. 03:30GMT - Both B and C say it wasn't bad. I agree it wasn't as bad as the first time. Both B and C are touching themselves absently. The bisexual part of the video comes on. A great scene and one I have came to many times: A pretty boy is fucking a girl, and another one is fucking the pretty boy's mouth. Best part is the guy is hairless, just like B. Teehee. I expect C to immediately object but he just freezes, stopping touching himself and looks at me staring at him from behind my laptop. I pout and say that I was enjoying watching him touch himself, and not to stop. 03:32GMT - heart rate 117bpm, going to have to put the laptop down if I want any chance of seducing C. Will report on what occured. By the way, stimminess seems to be peaking. Libido even more active -- can feel a wet spot on my panties, but the fact that I've been staring at two hard and well endowed penis' might explain that, so unsure if the increase is due to the chemical or not. [I wrote about the the unlogged time 332-0501 after the fact and have labeled it appendix 1. It is rather long and reads like erotica.] 05:01GMT - heart rate 115bpm plan exceeded expectations, me and B spitroasted C. C is definitely subby, with a little training he could be an excellent boytoy. we're cuddling now, but I expect more ravishings to occur. Can feel a slow comedown from test chemical now that I am not having sex. 05:20GMT - heart rate 110bpm, relaxing. A little hard to type while cuddling. C has slipped a hand under my skirt and is keeping two fingers inside me while we watch, he wiggles them occasionally. B occasionally leans over and bites my nipple. It is distracting. But I told them going in that I would be writing my minutes down for science. I haven't seen many trip reports for the subject chemical. Both B and C conclude that they would like more of it. I feel a bit of an urge too, so it appears the chemical is at least has some fiending properties. However, compared to chems such as MDPV or even Methylone it is minor. I tell them so, and besides while I have 8grams more I only brought like 1 home for the test on the off chance that the fiending was super intense. B mentions that I still have the 5grams or so of bk-MDMA (Methylone) that I bought for him, that we could each take 100 or 150mg and be set for the rest of the evening. I ponder this. I had planned on keeping my system pure except for the test chemical all the way through comedown to baseline. But the comedown seems slow and gentle and consistent, I don't think I'll learn much else. I say it is probably not a good idea to mix two stims, although since one is coming down it should probably be fine especially if we do a small dose and leave it at that. The only downside is I have to get up, and I was real used to those fingers inside me. I go to my room and measure out two 150mg capsules and 1 125mg solution in an oral syringe. B takes and swallows his capsule, and asks if he can give me my dose. He knows I like taking bk-MDMA in the tush. I laugh and bend over and spread my checks for him. C seems intrigued, maybe it was just my ass but I don't think he knew you could do it that way. He asks for his that way too. I am about to say no, but I remember I had a brand new oral syringe still in its wrapper. I get it, dissolve the contents of his capsule and let B do the honors again. I tell C he can take that syringe home with him. 05:35GMT - heart rate 120bpm, The bk-MDMA always comes on me fast when I take it up the tush. It lifts me up and I can feel some of that methylone and MDMAesque specialness that is definitely lacking in the testing chemical. I haven't felt much of the reported negative subject chemical side effects like vasoconstriction (we all did take an aspirin before) or bruxism. Maybe this appears in larger doses. I start feeling sluttier. This is different from just an increase in libido like the test chemical provides. Methylone always makes me just want to be raped. I know from experience that actual rape is nothing to fantasize about, so perhaps a better wording would be it makes me want to be tossed down, held down and ravished vigorously. From the look in their eyes I think that is about to happen. So, log end. [note Added after the fact: I think the appendix 1 I wrote while I was still really high was explicit and reads like a badly punctuated and spelled story from asstr.org, so I won't try a second version. But shortly after the log ended and I put up my laptop and put on my hands and knees and got tag teamed pretty much in every variation one can be for about 2 hours straight. There may be some qualities to the test chemical, or Methylone or a combination that lets boys come again and again? Perhaps my tight pussy and skilled lips skewed that data somewhat, though. C got a lot less submissive too! He was pulling my hair and slapping my tush just how I like it.] [Edit: removed the "appendix". This is graphic enough.]
Methylone is my favorite fuck drug (tied with mescaline) the flephedrone sounds like somewhat of a dud based on the report.
Real MDMA (molly) is my favorite chem to get fucked while on. Methylone is good, but real MDMA is a little bit more touchy feely. I try to avoid situations where I might end up naked or even hit on when I do MDMA though, I can't seem to say no while on it. The first time I took it was at a club many a year ago when I wasn't even legal yet, had to use a fake ID to get in the club. Long story short I woke up in a guy's bed that could have been my dad's age. SKEEVY. Didn't seem so at the time, though. Ever since then I have to have an expert clique of cockblocking girlfriends with me if I am going to roll. Which isn't often. The cockblocking clique works on the theory of mutual protection, but if I'm rolling and its only me and one girlfriend dancing or talking and a guy comes to hit on her. I'm supposed to cockblock, but chances are I'll say: 'She likes her hair pulled and her neck bitten when you fuck her in the ass. I want to watch.' Sigh. Really, in real life like at work I seem almost prudish.
Its a bit of a dud, comparatively to the other wonderful chems out there. I wouldn't spend money on it, really. But if someone offered me some I'd accept. I could see maybe spending a little money to buy a small amount just to try it once, so you could say you did. I'm probably going to end up gifting most of mine away.
Now that I am close to baseline, reading that trip report and attachment makes me groan. At one end I am surprised that I got almost all the events right, even with so many capitalization, spelling and punctuation errors. On the other end, while I am not shy, I am thinking perhaps I shouldn't have posted this at all. Or at least waited to tomorrow and edited it down considerably. I will say that the actual experience was extremely awesome, but that was mostly because I got to deflower a boy and then got laid 12 ways from sunday in spite of a semi-mediocre stimulant. And the last side effect I can notice is that it seems to inhibit sleep even after it is gone, for me. The two guys are out like a light. I either wore them out or theyre both resistant to the insomnia. If I'm lucky I'll fall asleep shortly, if I'm really lucky I'll wake up with one of them balls deep in me... I don't know what that girl who said Julian Assange raped her is thinking... if you spoon with a man and fall asleep with your pretty little ass pressed against his groin to me that is tacit consent from me to see how long you can fuck me before I wake up. Done with the sex talk, at least for this forum. Sorry if everything I posted was wildly off topic... I was high, son!
I hate this 4-FMC more after it totally wore off. My heartbeat stayed near 100 for the rest of the day, felt more trashed than I can remember in recent memory and I felt slight discomfort where I know my kidneys are. Mmm, toxic. The only saving grace is that it precipitated a threesome, but I could have done that sober and now would feel better.
well at least i got SOME kind of expansion from this post, if not mind. the chemical sounds meh. the sex sounds fantastic. Ah if only you weren't into boy on boy action you would be my sexual dream girl
