Jesus was a Latter Day Veggie...... ( misleading title)

........God. Nothing but a jazzed up version of the dying and rising VEGETATION GODS from the hoary old days of yore.

This childish superstition is "the reason for the season."

 

We all operate from a basic premise that there is good in the world for us and we ought to have it.

 

I wholeheartedly agree. Because - if it exists - it is patently obvious there is nothing but unbelievable bad in the Biblical afterlife. I believe all those who love Jesus, and his criminally insane sire, should get a good sniff of Zyklon B gas - before they inevitably end up as bad as their despicable Jewish Juju.

 

I don't find speculating on the prospects of an afterlife contributes to our situational awareness and in some cases probably depreciates it, however the more insidious culprit is that very premise you so enthusiastically endorse, that there is good in the world. Conversely the idea of bad is an equally feeble premise.

I don't find the world valuable for what it has to offer consisting of uneven sensational intensities, some of which we call pleasant and some not so. At the end of each pole is the "peak experience", beyond which we have no sensational equipment.

What do you do when you always know what the punch line is?

 

Joseph Campbell found great inspiration in neolithic and bronze age mythology. Rather than being childish, the tales of death and birth of the gods were beautiful poetic metaphors for the awe they felt in the face of the grand cycles of nature, their tie to the cycles of human existence. There were also fables, a literary device with which the authors could explore topics such as love, virtue, truth, the possibility of an unseen spiritual dimension to existence, etc.

Are those in our day who work on spreadsheets for a living in a gray cubicle better prepared to wrestle with the great issues of philosophy and ethics than the ancient poets who gave us the Icelandic sagas, the Veddas, the epic of Gilgamesh, the native American legends, the tale of Beowulf, Aesop's fables and the musings of Plato? The great myths of the past were spawned by people who lived intimately with the forces of nature, life and death.
Their insight into life is astounding. Dig into Campbell's essays and his video interviews. The myths have a much deeper meaning that is commonly attributed to them.

For Judaism and Christianity to incorporate some of those literary conventions is either plagiarism or a stroke of genius. I think the latter. You can see an example of this in the book of Acts when the apostle Paul (a cosmopolitan diaspora Jew (recently convinced that Jesus was Messiah) meets Greek philosophers on Mars Hill. Immediately he tries to find common ground and had a measure of success with his audience. The consensus among the Messianic Jews was that they could not propagate pure Judaism among those raised in Greco-Roman tradition. To go international, they had to
fuse elements of the Indo-European mythology with the values and deity of a Jewish Messianic sect.

Parts of that fusion went badly, some were a smashing success.

It seems to me that it was the parables and other teachings of Jesus that had the strongest impact on the plebeian masses. It was a very liberating message to those in the lower strata of Roman society.
When the conversion of Roman society reached critical mass, the patricians and the emperor himself had to extend toleration and even endorsement.

 

This thread began with a postulate that has nothing to do with the Vegetarian forum. Worshippers of a vegetation God could very well be omnivores.

Perhaps a moderator could move this entire thread into some section devoted to philosophy or apologetics where it would be more harmonious.

(well the thread would be harmonious, not necessarily the debate within that thread).

 

It sure beats what awaits us in God's celestial Auschwitz if the Abrahamic religions are right. Their God is manifestly the most criminal, vile, and essentially evil entity ever. I defy anyone to successfully defend this insanely spiteful, vicious, genocidal ****. He is THE worst piece of work that humankind has ever known - hands down.

Furthermore, those who think his feeble-minded fascistic followers are the full quid are as delusional and as dangerous as them.

 

i always thought the peak experience was exactly in the middle

 

first, if yahweh exists, we really only have the word of his followers as to what he is like - perhaps he is a gentle prisoner of their mad desires? perhaps he has never said a single word to anyone, never done a single thing upon the earth since creation? and the bible is pure fiction, even with a god?

second, his followers are as varied as any large and diverse group of people, and while many [usually the ones that get all the attention] seem "fascistic", others are as purely good as anyone i have ever known - and that goodness seems to stem from their belief and the morals inherent to that belief

[/devil's advocate]

anyways, the earlier god thing comes up every time someone smokes hash for the first time and reads gilgamesh or the golden bough, and has been hashed, re-hashed, and hash-marked to death in the religion sub-forums, so let's begin anew:

why are there christian vegetarians, since jesus was a fish-slaughterer of epic proportions?

 

Could be but all the activity seems to be at the edges. We have one extreme or peak very good and one extreme or peak very bad. The intensity increases as we go farther from baseline. In a warm blooded organism, baseline is neither too warm nor too cold.

 

i was thinking about this too and realized that i used to think extremes were peaks but have become worn out by them, perhaps?

so now i tend to mentally pull myself in from either end until all is well again

and that's my new readjusted peak experience, which i aim for constantly . . .

what does any of this have to do with eating veggies?

 

A bed not to hard nor too soft but just right. I call that state of equilibrium, peace

It think it may be a bit of sarcasm, vegetable being the state of mind under the numbing influence of judeo-christian angst. Or he may have a fetish for speaking to vegetarians?

 

(Sighs exasperatedly) Fer fuck sake! Jesus is a vegetation God and his followers worship and eat him every Sunday. Where the fuck else could I put it ?!!

 

What you describe is cannibalistic, not vegetarian.

And you left yourself open for the sucker punch.

However, I enjoy your color.

 

doh!!

 

a deer, a female deer.

 

Me, a name you call yourself..

 

you missed one

re, a drop of golden SON [lol]

is this a new online game?

for catholics to be un-veg re death cookies means that transubstantiation has to actually occur

and the last time i was in a catholic church [or really any church] all i saw was a dreary institutional building with a dreary uninspired priest trying to make me feel good about an extraordinarily nasty person that was finally out of her misery, and out of our misery as well

there was no magic in that place

so - no magic, no cannibalism - just flour and water, and grape juice and yeast . . .

 

..... and pints and pints of priest's cum running outta the brutalised bums of chubby little altar boys with angelic faces. :angel:

 

it was in palm springs, where all the altar boys are 70+ years old

still, one never knows . . . uke: