Abusing welfare... yes or no?

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im not familiar with the canadian system, but, in the states it'd be very difficult for childless young people to qualify for welfare in the first place. sounds like your system is more fucked than even ours. lol.

 

I heard that too.. Here any person over 18 can get welfare, as long as they ask and say they are living on their own. Its suppose to help people find jobs.. but they dont do anything about that.

 

abuse would be using it for non-essentials and not actively trying to get off of it

I would do nothing...its the system that needs to change and police itself

 

I would definitely say that qualifies as welfare abuse, but I don't think you should do anything about it. its really none of your business and like bbad said, its more indicative of the overall welfare policy than anything else. Someone should have figured out that she doesn't need welfare by now; if the system is so fucked up that someone who makes enough money to support herself can still qualify for welfare, then ratting out one person won't change anything. The entire system needs to be changed.

 

Sounds like abuse, but in the states, I'd much prefer see everyone doing that than people not on welfare. Welfare is a tiny part of the US national spending, so what if there's a welfare queen or 500? They're not putting a dent in anything, all it sounds like it's doing is partially subsidizing her smoking, as far as the actual numbers go.... I'd love if the government would help fund MY pot.

 

Abusing welfare is just as bad as a politician stealing the money.

Since she's a friend, I would normally recommend just trying to talk to her about it. But since she's a coworker, I'd be iffy about that if it were myself.

Also, since she's a friend, I wouldn't report her. But I certainly wouldn't lie for her, since I need to watch my own ass (though I can't imagine how such a predicament could possibly arise)

 

i don't think you should get into her business.

 

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Try to see it from her perspective. Unemployment isn't easy. You're not sitting around on your ass all day. Her psychological state is far worse than you think, especially when you know that society frowns on her because she is unemployed and she has friends like you who are judgmental of her position. If you want to be a good friend support her but let her work things out her own way.

 

Well turning green into green is one thing, but you can't EVEN smoke clothes... Sounds like she's got some problems.

If she seems to make a lot more than she visibly spends, it could also mean there's some other chemical use going on, depending on what's locally available and if she shows signs of other drug use. And being a stripper also leads into other drugs, very easily. If she has needle tracks, nosebleeds, doesn't sleep, or that sort of thing, she might need some talking to about that. (Note: It's her right to fuck her life into the ground all she wants, I would NEVER advocate forced confinement or rehab, it can't go well. And she could very well also just be a lazy shit)

 

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actually...it is very difficult to stay on welfare here...they fucking make you jump through hoops with producing receipts,mandatory bank and rental audits and very low pay...a single person can get about 550..mabe 650 with special diet....1 kid gets you a bit over a grand...they arent fucking knew at this..they know how to weed out most of the abusers and keep the money where it belongs...the few that get through eventually get caught usually by some peeler that is jealous that you spend money on weed instead of food and clothes lol:mickey:

 

You seem to be arguing both directions with this post, I'm going to assume you forgot some punctuation and a word ending....

 

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Well yeah, it's wrong, but cheating welfare is hardly cause to snitch on a friend, at least if she's a good friend. Just tell her how you feel, and if you're that diametrically opposed to what she's doing, break off the friendship. But even if you did that, I don't think snitching makes the world a better place, at least not in this sort of case.

But she gives all her "stripping" money to her "boyfriend", and then gets a small comission back, you say, while on welfare? ohhhhh kayyyy

 

is your friend abusing the public dole?
from what you have said in this thread kista, the answer is, no, she is not.
i worked for almost 17 years with alot of welfare recipients and, i have seen alot people like your friend.
your friend does qualify for disablity.
her behaviour of "abusing" the dole is just superficial small time stuff.
under the surface she has very, very, very, major big time psychological shit going down with her.
when i was working as a psychologist, i reported cases like hers to social services.
i never once reported a case like hers to the welfare department.
the reason for not reporting a case like hers to welfare is, because, it is NOT welfare abuse. what looks like welfare abuse to you, is NOT welfare abuse at all.

read what is say here very, very, carefully!
your friend has the psychological mindset of a helpless depended child.
she no doubt grew up in a abusive home and/or school environment. she never learned or, was taught how to be an adult. in other words, she does not have the skills to take care of herself.
her so called "boyfriend" is abusing and exploiting her.

i have seen and worked with one hell of a lot of people like her.
i'm not going to give you advice one way or the other about reporting her. i will tell you this much though.
NEVER, EVER, REPORT HER TO THE WELFARE DEPARTMENT! THIS IS NOT A WELFARE ABUSE PROBLEM!
THIS IS A PROBLEM OF ADULT ABUSE!
IF YOU DO REPORT HER (REPEAT, "IF") REPORT HER CASE TO ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES... AND, ONLY, ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES!

 

Seriously, I read this as you being pissed off that she is doing this and you aren't.

I hate this shit from people who claim to be nice people...

You know how what she is doing affects your life?

IT DOESN'T

Wether she is on welfare or not, is not going to change a damn thing in your life... The only thing it will effect if you were to report her, would be her life.

This isn't a case of how you can better your life and get up on your feet... this is how you can drag someone else down so you aren't alone in your misery.

Perhaps you should be just a tad more concerned with your own life, and a tad less concerned with other peoples...

If you don't like her choices, stop hanging around her and calling her a friend...

Oh... and never come around my place for any reason... I don't like people who have to wonder if its okay to rat on a friend or not...

 

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