2cp: The Desert Mindscape

I have had three trials with 2c-P.

1. 12 mg at roughly 8:00 p.m.

-Started to kick in around 11:00 p.m.
-At the substance's peak senses were heightened to what seemed like a maximum, colors were vibrant, I saw each individual object (light posts, trees, mailboxes, flowers [organic and inorganic things]) for their "isness," as Aldous Huxley says about the effects that mescaline have on his perception. I just recently read Doors of Perception. I tried to describe how 2c-P made me see things, but couldn't quite explain it accurately. When I read what Huxley said about istigkeit, it really hit the nail on the head. I'm sure this is effect comes with any psychedelic. But, it seems to be more evident on 2c-P, as it seems like one of it's main effects.
-Other than the colors being more vibrant and halos surrounding all lights, there were some faint swirling and patterning of objects (walls,floors, ceilings, etc.) with very slight rainbowing effects.
-There was a physical and mental stimulation that had a pretty unique (at least in my experience) body rush/buzz. It was nothing amazing, my body was just charged throughout every limb with energy and excitement.
-There was a slight buzz in my joints. My knees gave me a feeling like I could jump over a house.
-There was also a stoned feeling and a lot of laughter.
-It was impossible to sleep at 4:30 in the morning. I went without sleep for over 24 hours. On 0 hours of sleep at about 5 p.m. the next day. I had an outstanding motivation and energy to rearrange my room and clean everything (and that's what I did).

2. 15mg at 10:00 a.m.
-I was outside, on a hike. We went to some cliffs and sat on these giant rocks in a dark, moist canyon. We talked and laughed.
-It was pretty similar to 12 mg.
-Being more exposed to nature made some differences, though. I have a fear of insects (a pretty good one). It was nowhere to be found while on 2c-P.
-I felt like laying and hugging the giant boulder I was sitting on. I layed down, touching the side of my face to this dusty, slightly mossy boulder in absolute comfort.
-Heightened senses were more apparent. When listening to music, singers' voices were broken down and , at times, sounded 8-bit.
-The effects of this drug, for me, are more evident when you don't concentrate on them. Audible and visual effects seem to be stronger and more apparent when I unfocus my eyes, mind and ears.

3. 6 mg at 3:00 p.m.
-Just as enjoyable as the first two trials for its own reasons.
-Subtle energy ad body rush/buzz
-talkative and more willing to open up
-heightened senses (most evident effect)
-motivation
-Went to work and functioned easily.
-Lasted until 12:00 a.m., roughly. I had no problem going to sleep.


I would like to break the 15 mg mark. I just need to set aside some time.

 

Hmmm, sounds like you got more out of this material than GB and SB CoolRunnings. i wonder if it was dose level, setting or the business about enhancing effects while concentrating on them (LOL! DMT yields the exact opposite in my experience - dare to think/concentrate on it and the scene changes!).

 

Sounds better than my trials in the 20 mg. range.

 

I know two people that have done 2c-p but both of them did it with 2c-i. One knowingly, the other was told it was a 15mg each split of 2c-i/e in a cap.

The one who knowingly did it had a 10mg cap of 2c-p and a 12mg cap of 2c-i. He said it was one of the best trips of his life and he's someone who trips a couple times a week. He also deals psychs mainly so he has had access and tried most psychs. He was pretty adamant about not taking much more than he did of 2c-p, and he has definately done dosages of certain drugs that are generally not reccomended if you like your brain unfried. Of course I'm sure the 2c-i intensified the trip quite a bit but for someone that didn't see anything wrong in taking 500ug of some pretty potent LSD the fact that the thought of taking 20mg of 2c-p scared him just thinking about it has me agreeing that dosing above 12mg probably isn't a good idea at all. He said 20mg would kill you, which might not be true but I tend to heed a warning like that from someone of his experience and habitual more than reccomended dosing of psychs.

The other guy who thought he was doing i and e together tripped for about 16 hours and only came down when I gave him 2.5 mg of clonazepam, his trip as he described it and how he acted the two hours or so I was around him when he was doing it was pretty consistent with reports about 2c-p so I'm almost positive he took 2c-i and p together instead of e. His comment on the trip was "right now i'm really just pissed that my dealer has been holding out on me, i've taken e and i combos before from him but this is the best trip of my life. You wanted 4-aco-dmt? Fuck that shit, this is where it's at."

I know there are different strengths of batches but he has done the e and i combo before 3 times before 20/10, 10/20, 12/18 respectively. He thought those trips were shit compared with this one. Which makes me pretty sure it wasn't just the batch but that it wasn't e but p that he took, and his trip resembled a p trip as described online and then was very similar to my dealer's trip who also mixed i and p.

I have two 10 mg caps of p and 3 12mg caps of i. I have done i before but not p, do ya'll think I should do p on it's own first or since there was such glowing reports of an i/p combo to just go ahead and do a cap of each? Especially seeing as it seems like people who are pretty experienced with psychs have labeled p as something of a disapointment, maybe the best way to bring out the best in p is not in increasing the dose but by combining it with i. Any thoughts?

 

^^^ First off I just want to say you described smitty25's nightmare phenethylamine mix in the 2ci/2cp combo.

How you described your friends trips made the combo sound intriguing and appealing though. I think you should dose 2cp on its own first. With the potential for it to be a very long trip and the varying intensity for different people I think its wise to get an idea of how sensitive you are to it, see if you enjoy the effects and the nature/qualities of the trip before you go mixing it.

 

Yeah I was thinking just dosing on 2cp first would be the best, although if I don't like it I think ill still mix 2cp/i afterwards because of the good feedback i've had on that particular combo. At least that way ill know in the future whether 2cp is good on it's own, has to be mixed with 2ci, or just sucks no matter what.

Might take a few weeks because of the lengthy trip time of 2cp since I'd have to devote a whole day to the experience, but ill report back with my thoughts on 2cp by itself and then in combination with 2ci.

I guess doing the mix first would be like candyflipping for the first acid trip.

 

Ok so I have now tripped on 2cp five times. Every time the dosage was around 10-15 mg and was snorted.

I have found that 2cp on it's own is a fantastic psychedelic. The visuals created by it are wonderful, and introspection is incredibly profound on it. However, I have found that it's very best quality is in the magical fusion of it with LSD. LSD and 2cp mix so perfectly, and the most intense trip I have ever had was with three hits of acid and then a snorted line of 10-15 mgs of 2cp. It was on this trip that I finally understood how those trippy youtube videos come to be, all I had to do was close my eyes while listening to music and Images were created matching perfectly with the song playing.

2cp is a rough psychedelic though, I love it, but it is something that you will either love or hate. It really depends on your personality. The introspection on 2cp, especially in conjunction with acid is incredibly intense. 2cp is also a psychedelic that will give you what you put into it, as other posters have mentioned, it creates a psychedelic landscape but it is the tripper who must fill this landscape in order to gain something of value from the experience. A simple way around this though is to mix 2cp with acid, seriously do it if you have the opportunity because they have such a perfect synergy with each other.

 

sounds like a plan

 

have you ever taken 2ce? with LSD?

does that mean you're gonna try it? have you even tried 2cp solo yet?

 

No I haven't mixed that partiucular combo. Have you? For some reason it seems like the experience wouldn't necessarily be bad, but I feel like 2ce and LSD would be better done individually. That's just my initial feeling though, if you've tried it and would reccommend it then I would certainly try it, I mean why the hell not.

 

While mixing 2cp with LSD is amazing, if you haven't done 2cp on it's own before I would reccommend you try it by itself before you mix the two. Although that's not really a requirement, it's just normally a good idea to be experienced with individual substances on their own before mixing them. But, I really can't stress how awesome 2cp and LSD together are though so if you were to just fuck the bullshit and mix them then it's not like it's not going to be a good trip, because it will be.

 

Awesome follow up evilreign! Great to hear those 2 compounds synergize so well. I could definitely see how LSD could fill in the 2cp mindscape. Does one particular psych fall into the background more, does it depend on dosage or does it feel more like its own type of trip?

 

I didn't like 2cp really...bad nausea, and about one hits worth of acid visually (almost no mental change other than being high), but my ex did say the hardest she tripped was doing l and 2cp, so that does seem to be a combo worth going for.

 

Anyone who tells anyone else that a chemicals they are taking is a chemical it's not deserves the worst imaginable death.

Just sayin'.

OP, I don't see what's wrong with deserts. I live in one. Very psychedelically surreal, I love it.

 

2 sides to every story.
Don't be a family failure.

 

In some regards it is it's own type of trip, distinctly different from both an acid and 2cp trip, but visually it always seems to have a more LSD character to it no matter how much 2cp is done and how little LSD. With 2cp and only one hit of LSD the 2cp was a little more in the forefront, but the visuals still took on more of an LSD like character.

 

i never tried 2ce and LSD together. i've thought about it a lot, but i'd be a bit worried that the negatives of 2ce would muck up the beautiful LSD trip.

 

2c-e is way to gritty and dirty to muddle acid with

i have not done 2c-p yet (10mg no effects) but it was PV's fave 2c by far and these raving reports of the combo have got my attention.

 

I actually took some 2cp last night at the end of what I believe was mda molly or 'sass' as the cool kids like to call it. I took 15 mgs rectally and the transition was rather smooth, it played background to the mda for a bit. Still a very barren (desert) headspace, I found myself questioning my sobriety at some points as there was little to no cognitive alteration and the emotional aspect was pretty much nonexistent but it is hard to deliver like mda, I think the mda may have sharpened some of the OEV's.

Then finally at about hour 5 I closed my eyes and witnessed some amazingly intricate and detailed Cev's. Some of the cooler images I've seen before with eyes closed. Very quickly generated detailed forms of fractal ladders, cubes, eyeballs, etc. That lasted for about 45 minutes, I'm still not really a fan of this 2c as evilreign suggested you'll probably either love it or hate it. It feels like too much of an investment physically and timewise with very little return. Definitely better 2c's out there imo. I got one remaining dose so hopefully 3rd times a charm but I'll try to be resting today and not get to ahead of myself.

 

what 2cs do you like better, GB?

seriously?! or does that mean i'll get a ++ from it?
how would you rate your 15 mg 2ce trip, now that you've taken 60 mg?