Hello! I've never posted here, but I have a question for all. I have tripped several times, but spread out over several years. Not experienced by any means, but I know what to expect, and I can be trusted to keep first-timers on the level, I think. More boring background: I smoked copious (some would say excessive) amounts of weed every day for four years, and I have a lots of experience with stimulants. The first time I tripped, it was with my boyfriend at the time, who used to trip every single day (wake up, take a hit, go to work kind of guy). We went in the woods, we went swimming in the pool and we hung out in a closet. He fed me two hits right off the bat, then fed me two more about two hours in. We smoked weed the whole time. I was completely paralyzed. I could not even take a step in any direction. Apparently, I was speaking coherently and clearly, but in my mind, it was like the entire world had disappeared and I was so scattered that I could not even figure out how to sit down. Every bad and frightening thought was congealed into a horrible mass inside my head and I could not fight my way out of it. The carpet and grass turned into entire worlds into which my mind and body would twirl and sink. But the memories of it are AWESOME. A few weeks ago was the last time I tripped- we had only about a hit per person. So it was very mellow. Lots of laughing and ridiculousness (good made-up word to describe antics, yes?). Slight visuals and excellent body high. So here is my question: How do I combine these two trips? I want to take three or fours hits again, but I want to have it be fun and exciting and interesting and exploratory. What are some good tips for keeping it relaxing and productive? What should I do if my mind starts turning down that path of anxiety that made me ultimately quit smoking pot? You know, where your stomach gets tight and your breath speeds up and there is an unspecified and building knot of terror in your throat. Yes, I can handle intense mind-altering states. I have done it, and will do it again. Mushrooms and acid, though, bring me to a place I feel very compelled to conquer. How do I do that? Any help would be awesome. *Just a note after reading through some of the previous posts: I don't need anyone telling me not to trip, or that I "can't handle it." I am just looking for genuine, positive tips and feedback. Thanks.
As far as Acid goes 2 hits is probably a good spot to be enjoyable but thought provoking/deep/visual as well. Hits can vary dramatically in potency though so that is by no means a strict rule of thumb. Shrooms would probably be about 2 grams for the same sort of trip. To change a bad trip or headspace, Redirect the trip in someway: change rooms, music, clothes, go inside, go outside, drink water, chew gum, do something that changes the focuses. Slight changes can take trips' in a very different direction. If you really want to grow and learn from your trips' then face your fears and try to analyze why whatever is making you uncomfortable/afraid/etc doing so.
Welcome to Hipforums pirateswin, As a middle aged woman who has a decent amount of experience, I find this post to be deeply intriguing. P to the enguin could have been a bit more diplomatic, but he is correct. Not the rape part - that seldom happens with psychedelic trips - it's more like vivesection in my experience. . . . Anyway, when one is in a challenging or difficult situation one has a few choices, be they conscious or not - fight, flight, freeze are three that come immediately to mind. But these do NOT help and they DO not produce the kinds of effects you are seeking. Surrender is the key. Don't go into it with the idea that you are going to conquer it. I mean, why do you feel compelled to conquer? This can quickly get you into dark and dangerous territory with psychedelics. If this is all you want, stick with stimulants. Please believe me sister, if you dose correctly, that is a battle you will never win. Pity the mind that feels it is stronger than the mushroom. Pity the mind that feels it is stronger than LSD. Pity the mind that feels it is stronger than DMT. Ahhhh, but the mind that can surrender and give back nothing but LOVE, the mind that can ride the wave rather than conquer it or be drowned by it . . . . now that is the mind of a psychonaut. And the rewards are myriad and legion. And, I believe, that is the attitude and tactic that will yield the results you are looking for. Now for specific recommendations: Follow the call - go with what you know is right or with what feels right. If you want strong visual and melding effects, you need to take multiple doses of almost all prints (multiple paper hits) of LSD and almost all dilutions of liquid (multiple drops). Now, it is going to take some experimenting to find the sweet spot between the above and what follows, but relaxing and productive almost scream for lower dosing. Lower dosing also allows one to (in general) be socially connected and not too paralyzed. Having one or more persons tripping with you also helps to keep it fun and light. My deepest (& darkest) trips are solo, high dose, in the dark. In terms of dealing with fear and anxiety - everyone needs to find what works personally for them, but I have found that a combination of surrender, love and intentional focusing on abdominal breathing can be quite calming. Just make yourself breathe using your stomach muscles. If you see your stomach moving up and down, you are doing it. Also, as Guerrillabedlam says, change the scene, change the music, go for a walk, call a pet into the room, eat a small piece of fruit, take a shower, open a coffee-table book full of (hopefully arty) pictures. Be ready to accept that most LSD trips are 8-10+ hours in length. Think about your typical (non-dosed) 10 hour day. You have a variety of feelings, thoughts and emotions during that time. LSD has been defined as a "non-specific enhancer of the psyche" (I believe by Stanislav Grof). You can expect to laugh and cry, to feel elated and dark, to be high and low during a typical LSD experience. Don't try to control it, but do try to learn from it. Learn about yourself. Learn about your mind. Learn about the people around you. Learn about "reality." Good luck!
It's more like Lucy is making love to me, instead of raping me. Although, I've never had a bad trip before, so it was always "making love."
How do I explore these bad feelings without completely flipping out? Especially when everyone else is giggling and having a grand ol' time. Is it a good idea to go somewhere alone and think through some of the shit that bubbles to the surface? I take drugs for the altered perspective- I take them to improve my self-reflective abilities and maybe somehow even use what I discover to be a better person. I want to engage the bad thoughts that come up when I trip, but I want to do it the right way. I do really want to "grow and learn" from my trips- that's the whole idea, right? The fact that it scares me so much is exactly why I want to do it. And to SpicyCat- Thank you for the response! Definitely well though-out and it seems that you understand where I am coming from. Perhaps "conquer" was not the right word. It is more that acid and mushroom have opened up a door through which I can see the other side of myself- that subconscious world which I usually ignore or suppress. The idea of exploring that side of me is terrifying, but I am extremely compelled to do it. I know only good can come from it if I break through, even for a moment, and confront whatever it is that lies inside. I just want to do it in a way that doesn't make my trip-mates freak out, and I want to maintain at least a semblance of control, so that the thinking doesn't become schizophrenic or overly paranoid. Again, should I try and be alone for a period of time? When you say "surrender," what do you mean? Can you expand upon that?
I think you need to take a shower hippie.. pttf bad trips.. fuck you.. when was the last time you took a sledgehammer to the bathroom?
best advice ive seen in the lsd forum so far these kids 'worry' if they are going to have a "BAD" trip lol all this negative energy//
Ok i don't want to sound weird here but the first part of that post is awesome and i love you for it!!!! I was exactly the same way, once i opened that door i just had to experience more. And for me experience was the key word. I tripped alot by myself in the beginning which was beneficial for me and maybe be for you. Remember its a journey and everyones is different but it will come to you in time. Don't think to much into it just let it happen.
