This all might be for nothing. But out of curiosity would any of you know how much molly is too much molly? I can't seem to find anything online that tells me. Almost two months ago I took about 600 mg of molly over the course of about 6 hours. The following week I took about 300 mg all at once. The the following night after I came down I had this complete mental crash. I have had these 3 times before in my life even before I used any drugs so it may have nothing to do with the molly. I never have actually been diagnosed with anything but I am sure I have some kind of mental disorder. I was just wondering if it may have caused me permanent brain damage. Because like I said in a week or so it will make two months and I still feel weird. Anxiety, depression, sleep problems, appetite problems. They have slowly gotten better over time but I have not fully recovered back to my old self as of yet. And no I am not a normal molly user. This was the first time I ever took molly. I have taken ex pills once and that was like 3 years ago.
It's normal. You are just sensitive to the serotonin aftereffects. both doses you listed are on the beefy end of the scale, for sure. you just strained your brain a bit in that one week period and it might take another couple of weeks before you really feel back to normal. just try and stick in the ~200mg per MONTH range of usage.
It might be worth trying 5HTP or an SSRI type drug. Only you can accurately access the risk to benefit ratio for yourself but I'd consider not doing molly again. If you do, make sure you have plenty of water, vitamin E and C, and a post session SSRI.
SSRIs take weeks to begin working and 5htp is bullshit, it doesn't address the problem of post-roll. you feel shitty because your brain has lowered the amount of receptors for 5HT temporarily, and so you have less 5HT working in your head. But throwing raw 5HT into your stomach won't do anything, because you still haven't addressed the problem of there not being enough receptor sites for it! It's like trying to solve the problem of a full parking lot by flying a bomber overhead and dropping 10 tons worth of automobile parts onto the parking lot. Great, more car shit, but that's not the issue, the issue is spaces for the cars.
SSRIs act in the brain right away but it takes weeks for results because thats how long it takes to regulate serotonin receptors. The idea of a post roll SSRI is to stop residual action of md related compounds from continuing to deplete presynaptic serotonin and from further SERT (serotonin transporter) down regulation. If nothing else it helps stop the roll when your brain chemistry is such that you aren't getting anything out of it anyway. I follow the parking lot analogy but i'm not convinced that it is so simple. Depending on which genes (and proteins) are involved 5htp may or may not help.
SSRI's kind of scare me though. You hear of all these terrible side effects and then it seems they don't even help a good percentage of people who take them. Some people get worse off and that's the last thing I need. But what I suppose I'll deal with it until my mother get's health insurance again and if I feel that I still haven't improved I'll go see an actual psychiatrist and maybe get on some medication. Oh, and I have tried 5htp pills they really didn't make much a difference. So, I think Mr Writer is right with his theory.
it's not my theory it's how the central nervous system works lol. the "theory" here is that 5htp will actually do something for you, and the theory behind THAT is lacking. it might help SLIGHTLY, *IF YOUR DIET IS TERRIBLE OR YOU HAVE METABOLIC/NEUROLOGICAL DISFUNCTIONS*. otherwise you are getting plenty of 5htp. it's just another health food supplement scam that has latched onto the molly community.
Dont overdue the molly bro. I was bad for a while. I got up to 1g of molly one night...... bad shit MDMA is not a toy. I learned that. Just take it easy ight?
Oh believe me, people in my house eat that shit like it's candy. My room mate gets like an ounce a week and everyone rolls all the time. I can't bare to even look at the stuff since all of this has happened. I don't plan on doing it for at least another 6 months maybe even a year. Rolling is great but the shit I had to put up for the past month or so totally out ways the positives of a 5 or 6 hour roll. I read a website that made a lot of sense that said I may have damaged my 5ht receptors where it takes several months up to a year to feel normal again. I know I just didn't deplete my serotonin because most say that will recover from a week up to a month. Plus I have been taking the 5htp. But yeah, I have been feeling slightly better. I guess it's just time away from the drug for my brain to fix itself.
I'll add my two cents. I'm a ex-MA cook, yes mdma is a type of meth amphatamine. The serotonin comedown is correct. I used to use mdma before I started cooking and I would do about a gram and a half a night, its very stupid. If you abuse it too much you can potentially hurt your serotonin levels enough to develop bipolar leading to schizophrenia,(don't worry though that would take a lot of abuse) or become depressed without it in which you will be prescribed meds usually citalopram, or any SUI. Sounds like your just been binging a lil bit, take it easy. If you only do it once in a while (once a month or so) just try to keep yourself around 300-400mg. or pop a xanax during the comedown and sleep it off.
Some of you people abuse mdma to levels I did not even know were possible. An ounce a week? I haven't even eaten an EIGHTH of an ounce of molly in my entire LIFE lol. ridiculous, complete lack of self-control. How do I reach these kids :biker:
Im lazy.... How many grams are in a ounce? I could be pretty close in my lifetime haha. jk.. Anyways... Yeah i agree with you writer. I thought i was bad too but ive seen some of these other kids doing this shit and its making me feel sorry for there brains.
Nope. Fuck thatttt. Ive prob taken somewhere around 10g-15g in my life. MAYBE. Could be less. Still thats a lot of MDMA and im not really proud of that number......though it was really fun while it lasted haha
I know a lot of people do a lot more MDMA then I have done. I was just saying was doing 600 mg in one night after only taken MDMA once prior to the occasion 3 years before dangerous considering I have NO tolerance. But on the bright side. My sleep has almost completely returned to normal and mentally I haven't been feeling as depressed or anxious. I am not 100% back to normal yet but it's a very slow process.
I've taken exactly 500mgs of molly in my life. It's a wonderful substance if used properly... and I'm sure it's still wonderful when you fucks abuse the shit out of it. lol There's a balence to everything (probably). You only get so much life, now weather you get your X amount of life served in increments(time), or in volume(fast life) fuck if I know...
Just slow down and whever you do roll dont redose. Redosing on the same night will 1) not bring you up that much, 2) make your comedown even worse.
The best roll I ever had was my last one. It was late in the night and I went camping with some friends the night before. Ate a bunch of shrooms and drank beer, ate more shrooms the next day (they was a tolerance, but they're potent enough) smoked weed all day on top of it, went home and watched TV till my buddy picked me up and rolled my shit-tits off. I don't know if that was the same night I took the 4aco too... But point of the story, after 2 days of marijuana, shrooms, little food and no sleep.... I had the perfect fucking roll. First time I actually felt the magic, but I never dosed more than 150 with a 50 mg bump later.
I had dosed about 250 mg. Then about two hours after I dosed another 250 and then about 3 hours later i dosed another 100 mg. My boyfriend rolls all the time and is fine but has a bit of a tolerance. He said he was barely even rolling after doing the same amount. Not me, I was rolling so hard.