Gummy Tabs

OK first let me say what a pain in the ass it is to order RC online. Have so sign up at one site for money transfer, sign up at another site to get money on the first site, and finally a western union account to transfer money to the second site so they can send it the first site.

Anyways.... I kinda asked about this in another post and didn't get any responses.

If I wanted to make gummy tabs, kinda like gel tabs would that work? I took a whole box of knox unflavored gelatine, 1 box of flavored jello and 1/2 cup of water and made some really good gummy candy.

If I were to say... mix in some 2c-e into the mix, would they work? I can figure out how much to mix with what to get a desired dose amount per candy later, I just wanna know if the concept is plausiable.

This is my idea for my friends birthday gift/party and I would really like to get this together for him.

 

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All I've ever done is send the vendor an email to tell them what I wanted, then I mailed a money order. Fuck all that complicated shit.

 

lol well I have three legit vendors( thanks to a special someone) and the only one that has the product i want only accepts hd-money or something like that. But im pretty sure its all gonna work out just a pain in the ass.

unless you wanna pm me your vendor and i can cut out a lot of crap.

any ideas on the gummy tho?

 

It sounds like it would work. Is there any heat involved in the process or what?

 

yes a little, you have to put the mixture on the stove for a couple minutes to get it to a pourable state. But im pretty sure the temp never reaches 180 which is around the melting temp of 2c-e

 

i believe i responded to your first question. your gummy candy method is going to introduce a lot of uncertainty in your measurement. will you be able to cut the gummies to the exact same size?
i would stick with liquid measurement, or better yet, scale out individual doses.

 

I have a candy tray that has theser really cool pryamid shapes, and when i put the gummy stuff into the tray I used a baby medicine syringe and each slot holds 1cc of gummy..

I was thinking if I use 1 gram of 2ce (thats 1000 mgs) and I want each dose to be about 10 mg, thats 100 hits. The tray has 90 slots so each dose will be a lil over 10 mg, which is fine. The recipe that i used to make the gummy candy filled all 90 slots with just a itty bit left over( which ill take as a bakers fee lol)

So theroritically (sp?) there will be about 10mg per 1cc ( does this sound correct?) I would mix the 1 gram with the 1/2 cup of water and since its water soluable (which is why it works orally, Im new to this and this is what i came up with after research) it should dissolve fine and mix evenly amongst the whole recipe.

Please correct me if im wrong or if i need to change or add anything.

 

I'm with porkstock. I'd just use liquid measurements, if you don't have a scale and some caps.

 

ok wow, so i totally meant 1ml not cc.

ok so help me figure this out...

there is 118 ml in 1/2 cup. if i put 1000mg of 2c-e into 118ml of water, how many mg per ml? the way i think to figure this is 1000/118= about 8.5...... so would that be 8.5mg per 1ml?

 

yes your right about the amount per ml but I would suggest usING a labelled 100ml syringe. might have to order it offline but that way 1 ml = 10 mg and it is very precise vs using a half cup(my point being do you really know its 118ml unless labelled?) if that is yours plan.

On the gummy note though if you had a mortar and pestle and mixed all ingredients dry for at least 10 minutes I believe they would be thoroughly mixed to make gummies..then theres the problem with DosIng those though.

 

seems like it could work. but there isn't really such a thing as a "hit" of 2ce. i find there is quite a bit of difference between 12 mg, 16 mg, and 20 mg. that's why i'd rather just weigh the dose. seems like having 90 "hits" of 2ce gummy candy could lead to some people overdoing it.

 

Yeah, even 5mg of 2C-E can completely change your trip. It would be pretty hard to measure how much 2C-E is in each of the gummy squares.

What I would do is...
- Get an ice tray or two
- Pour the gummy liquid into the tray, filling up halfway (so you have room to stir)
- Measure out your desired doses for each "2C-E cube"
- Mix them individually.

Now you know exactly what the dosage is!

 

Dude.....just use .5-1ml per mg. If you use .5ml/1mg, then 5ml will be 10mg. If you use 1ml/1mg, then 10ml will be 10mg. It's simple. 1ml/1mg is more accurate than .5ml/1mg though.

 

Lol, just before I went to page 2, I was thinking to myself, "So uhh, what happens if you find out that your dosage is too strong/too weak (everybody reacts differently and everybody has a "sweet spot"), and more likely than not (exactly what I said in your last post) when the product (2c-e) doesn't throughly distribute itself within each "hit" as you say. for sake of simplicity, lets say you are putting 10 mg on each hit, you try it out, oh that was nice! I think I want a little more though, 10 mg just seemed a little too weak for me. Hmm, Ima take 1 and 1/4 "hits", hmm didnt feel much different from my last trip. I'm gunna take 1 and 1/2 hits (using the remainer of the other hit, or a different hit all together) OH SHIT NIGGA! JUST HAD 20 MGS OF 2-C-E !?! THA FAWWKEZ HAPPENEEEINGG (IME high doses of 2c-e tend to produce excessive amounts of what one may call "Mindfuck") And then you'll be terrified of 2c-e (I think it was Spicey cat who had a similar terrifying experience, only she actually weighed her stuff and was SOMEWHAT prepared for the events that followed after dosing...) My advice to you (once again) Buy a scale off amazon. I bought a AWS for $26 dollars, free shipping, works great. It's accuracy is quite on spot, just when I try a new chemical I always low-ball my dose by ~1/10th (eg... 2c-e 8mg first dose), just because I am paranoid of over-dosing (in the psychedelic way, not the bad way).

I would only do this if I was buying a small amount. I believe that chemicals degrade in water faster than they do in air (not 100% sure on this but I think so). Especially with something that will last you as long as 1 gram of 2c-e will. Lol, 1 gram of 2c-e is like 70-90 trips (or less if your a fucking hero) and you won't be interested in re-dosing the 2c-e for a little while (for me it's usually 2 weeks to a month with every psychedelic). so lets just use the small number of 70 and multiply that by the other small number of 2 weeks.... Soo thats 140 weeks... sooooooo thats mmm like almost 3 years, dosing every 2 weeks (which is unlikely). Sure you'll probably share with friends, but still. The fastest I've ever seen somebody go through a gram of 2c-e was just under a year. I don't know how stable the chemical is in water, so you could end up loosing most of your product. Once again, my advice... Buy a scale.

 

^^^That could be true. I've never allowed my 2ce to sit in water long enough to degrade. 250mg usually lasts me less than 2 weeks, and even less if I'm sharing it. Also 1g of 2ce is only like 20 trips or so:tongue:

 

ok... so if i was to buy a mg scale, measure out individual doses... could I just put the powder right into each individual gummy slot? like fill the slot up half way, put the 10mg in it and fill up the rest of the way?

Im kinda confused on how i should do this, i felt all super smart with all those equations and stuff lol... you can deff tell that I am new to the RC game.

All I know is i want each candy to have a 10mg dose mixed in it

 

Honestly, I'd be concerned about the heat degrading the 2ce. Does anyone have any info on whether or not this should be a legitimate concern?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2C-E

so theres not a for sure known melting point...but i did see that its water soluable for up to 70mg per 1ml... so thats good to know

 

The melting point doesn't matter. I've let 2ce sit next to a heat source for a few days, and when I tried it again after those few days, it was almost completely inactive. I don't know if it was because of the heat or the air, or a combination of the two, but it barely did shit to me after those few days.

 

no good.... wow it sucks to say but i might just go with gel caps

doees anyone know if vitamin c or anything will react with 2c-e ok

i really wanna dose it in someway that its not just powder in a cap tho

any ideas on that... how about blotter paper?