NV: Sharron Angle says use your gun to get what you want

I don't. Look to the left at my location, I'm surrounded by these people. We have one of the Oath Creepers trying to take over our neighborhood and push his "Take the White House by Gunpoint" mentality on everyone else. I have a personal history with this movement and the gun crazed hate spewing nuts in it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/26/tea-party-twitter-arrest_n_191527.html

If you think this guy is just a lone "Prozac eating" mental patient, read the 3 pages of the next link. These people are armed and very dangerous.


http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/03/oath-keepers


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But, is this really what Nevada wants? Too many people make their decisions based on the campaign ads, mostly the ones on TV. It's an established fact now that most of the ads, and money for them, are not the candidate's, or paid for by citizens of Nevada. The money comes from Mr. Anonymous, who now controls politics in America.

The fact checkers on ABC have gone through many of Mr. Anonymous' ads and found most of them to be complete lies. So, these conservative "stranger don't tell me how to run my business" Nevadians are voting for whoever Mr. Anonymous tells them to. It turns out that these conservatives, who consider themselves to be "independent thinkers," really need some stranger to tell them what to think.

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I'm not defending those extremist by any means. But thats what they are, extreme. Putting all republicans in the same category isn't fair....thats all I'm sayin. I have a few Muslim friends, but they're never gonna blow themselves up in the name Allah.

 

But, the Republican party has welcomed them with open arms, and campaign funds. If they aren't now, they will soon be an established entity within the party, just like the Fundamentalists of the 80s who went on to become the votes that tipped the scales for Bush in 2000. The "Category" in which the Republican party belongs is not a static one; it constantly fluctuates in order to include any group that will get them a majority, with no regard for it's principals.

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I find it hard to believe that the Republican party would officially endorse someone who openly promotes gun-toting violence like you're talking about.

As for the rest of your post, well it goes for both democrats and republicans, and 90% or more of all politicians. The curruption doesn't fall into one party of the other, its the whole system. Both sides have fault.

 

The Republicans are throwing support to all of these Teabag candidates.

The Republican Party of the 50s and 60s was pretty laissez-faire on social issues. It was only after Billy Grahm got his foot in the White House door that they saw the votes from the Fundamentalists as worthy of taking on abortion, prayer, gay rights and other issues of fundamentalist Christianity.

On the other hand, the 60s and 70s gave rise to a pretty violent radical left movement, which never did gain any political clout what-so-ever, in fact, they were excluded from the political process and Nixon declared war on the entire anti-war movement.

Over the last couple of decades the Democrats have moved toward the center while the Republicans have moved so far to the right the only voices they can hear are the fascist screaming for blood. And you don't have to look very far to see the violence committed by right wing extremists; doctors murdered, clinics bombed and recently offices and homes of congressmen vandalized by TeaBaggers. All the while, Republicans on The Hill keep ramping up the rhetoric that spawns these acts, 'Obama is a Socialist,' 'Obama is a fascist,' 'the liberals are destroying our nation,' 'they're crapping on our Constitution,' etc, etc. They even chose a woman for V.P. candidate who was an active member of a group promoting the succession of Alaska from the Union.

Republican theme song, to the tune of the Burger King song:

Hold the pickles, hold the lettuce,
lack of ethics don't upset us.

Alabama has been Republican controlled for some time. Check out the state of their education, economy, average income, etc. One state law in particular says it all, it's illegal to sell adult "toys" (vibrators and such) anywhere in the state, yet anybody can purchase a gun at any of their many gun shows.

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Yes, to some degree. But the Republican Party is much more manipulative and corrupt than the Democrats. I don't think it's because Republicans are somehow inherently more corruptable than Dems by any means. It has more to do with the nature of their policies.

The Democrats have indeed moved to the center (goddamn pussies) but their base is still made up largely of unions, minorities, and large portions of the working classes. So yes, the Dems will tow the corporate line, but they simply don't do it as much as Republicans. Corporate elites KNOW the Republicans will almost always cut regulations, push a freer market at the very least, push an even more corporatist policy at the very most.

And the wealthy will always provide more fertile ground for money-driven corruption and croneyism than unions and minority groups could ever dream of providing.

Mind you, I'm not strictly against capitalism. I'm really not. I just think capitalism shouldn't be a substitute for domestic policy, simply because it so easily leads to corruption. Pump a little social democracy into the American system (for healthcare, energy, food, water, education) and let the free market do what it wants in all the other facets of the economy. A strong social safety net would provide a buffer, the rich could get rich, and the working-classes could live more comfortably.

 

I don't see it this way at all. But I also don't identify politicians soley on the party they are under. I see corruption and greed on both sides, as well as good people with good ideas on both sides as well. I personaly think that the only way to end the twisted and dirty game that is currently American politics, would be to put an end the two party system and give everyone a fair chance to run for high office. That and to ban career politicians.

But thats just me. I live in a very liberal area and rarely see eye to eye with any of my friends when it comes to these kinds of things.

 

Very few Republicans (at least on the national stage) don't seem to be tied up in some kind of special interest money grubbing scheme. I'm not rooting for Democrats, mind you. I'm a social democrat first and foremost.

I'm just saying that the party most aligned with the corporate elite is going to be more corrupt. They just have more of an opportunity to become corrupt. Democrats are also corrupt, just less than Republicans.

(And this next part isn't a shot at you personally.) I kinda get sick of the "Well it's the same on both sides" because, really, it's not. The left wing and right wing in America are so diametrically opposed to each other. You simply aren't going to see the same corruption on a destructive scale on the left as you are with the right.

The right has (or, in some cases, had) Bush, Rove, Cheney, Dwight "Let's Murder Guatemala" Eisenhower, Nixon, Haliburton, Blackwater, Barry "Fuck the Civil Rights Act" Goldwater, the fuckin Tea Party, a gaggle of multinationals and oil supermajors raping the planet whilst influencing American policy, the military industrial complex, draconian immigration laws, and the derivatives gangsters.

Now, I'm not saying the Democrats don't do some of the same shit, or favor some of the same criminal corporatist policies (Obama loves mercenary armies and torture, to be sure). I'm just saying the Democrats do less of that.

As far as the true American left? Well all I'll say is that the real American left isn't trying to suppress the 1st Amendment rights of its citizens. Or trying to put our future into the hands of profiteers and warmongers all for some misguided faith in Hayek-esque economics.

Like I said, I'm not anti-free market. But there is a time and a place for capitalism. And capitalists -- those who are, by definition, in favor of business instead of people -- shouldn't be the folks who are supposedly running a government that is FOR the people.

I think it's pretty logical. Others might disagree. But hey, whatever.


*Edit-slash-PS -- There is a difference between the true American left and the "liberals". Liberals are just capitalists with bandages. Can we please stop confusing socialists, progressives, and radicals with "liberals"?