Scared lsd may have opened something too much...

hey, im new to this forum, have used others to try and get an answer to my problem but like to try an acid specific forum.

basically at big chill this year i did lsd for the first time on my birthday. i was pretty fucked already as dont totally remember taking it. i took a drip, uncertain of the quantity or strength. i had already drank a fair bit and had a few lines of K.

i enjoyed the first half hour (or so it seemed) but then the next thing i have a memory of is being the other side of the festival on my own walking back towards i last remember being. my head was full of thoughts circling, my vision was like a fish eye and felt like everyone was still around me talking to me about this crazy idea i had thought up. i eventually collapsed and was woken to a some kind of first aid person flashing a light in my eye.

they took me inside a a large tent as i started coming back around, in and out of reality, i was able to talk a bit of sense as i started to remember it was my birthday and was at a festival.

they finally laid me down on a small bed, where i became trapped in a very viscous circle of thoughts, i tried to sleep to calm down but my head just kept tripping, hallucinating voices and not letting me stop thinking. i vaguely remember talking to my self and thinking everyone around me was involved in my trip.

im not 100% sure whether i feel asleep, but at some point early in the morning i got up and just walked back to my campsite, i was still having vague hallucinations of everything swaying and in mixed colours (which i highly enjoyed at the time)

im only 18 and as im aware don't have any relations with any metal health problems. bit recently have had incredibly vivid dreams that i seem to be calming down.

sorry for the very long post but am trying to get advice from anyone i can. there is more to this story. but will let who ever wants read this first before explain the rest. thank you very much for reading i know is long xx

 

Here's the problem;

-You were already "pretty fucked" before you took it.
-It was your first time taking it and you were fucked up at a music festival
-You were bothered by strangers shining lights in your eyes
-You're 18 and didn't know what you were doing

Here's the solution;

-Don't get fucked up before taking some next time
-Don't take any at a music festival until you're comfortable and experienced with it
-Be around people you know in a comfortable, calm environment. Not stangers at a large, loud, outdoor event
-Know what you're doing before you use any drug in any setting.

You'll be fine.

 

i know this, i regretted going into it in that state of mind ever since, but we have all made mistakes.

is it normal to see as if looking down a fish eye lense? i think was even seeing it when eyes closed? was incredibly intense.

the other thing i wanted to explain is, i used to smoke weed a far bit over the past year, i started to slow down after the acid as thought my drug taking has maybe reached its limit. one morning after a party about 2 weeks after the festival i tripped out at. we all had a nice wake and bake and started to watch a film. i felt fine for a while then all of a sudden my head felt like it was filling up. i got extremely anxious and my head was repeating everything anyone said in the film. i felt extremely uncomfortable and had to leave.

this went at some point properly when i feel asleep and did so for a few weeks. i completely stopped all drugs except alcohol and ciggy's after this problem. but at some point my head kept repeating things again, i manage to channel it into narrating what i was doing. making every day life very uncomfortable. when at work listening to the radio i couldnt just listen but instead constantly over thinking and repeating the lyrics.

it properly just me over thinking, but i feel like i have over thought many things, and my head thinks scatty thoughts that i dont control, but when realise im able to say stop and does. i have thought to my self that i have anxiety problems, have finally sorted my sleep, but have the constant feel of un answered questions. its very hard to explain, and very sorry for ranting so much, but these forums seem to have the best answers compared to unexperienced (drugs) docters.

 

To be honest that just sounds like anxiety. LSD despite what you may have heard doesn't cause brain damage, so don't worry about that. It can occassionaly cause temporary psychosis in some people. I think it's probably safe to say you're past that date.

If you're seeing things that aren't there or hearing things that aren't there, you might want to look into it. However that does not at all sound like the case here.

If your mind is racing simply because you don't know how to control your thoughts, you probably just have about of anxiety about the issue. This would make sense considering you said it came about when smoking weed with your friends.

Just don't think about it. Only allow yourself to think of thoughts that are necessary, like the task at hand. Don't allow your mind to wander aimlessly about nonsense or things that are trivial. This will also help you if you choose to use LSD again.

Don't worry anymore about it. If there was something wrong you'd certainly know by now.

You're obviously in control of your thoughts, just work on quieting the unnecessary ones.

As for you mentioned something about having constant unanswered questions. Everyone does, and most will never have answers. That's just the way it is.

 

I personally found ketamine to exacerbate anxiety after regular use. I'm not sure how often you are using k but I would probably blame that on any drug induced paranoia and anxiety compared to one acid trip.

 

ok thank you, this is the support and answer im looking for,
its been 2 months since the trip, how soon do u realise ur schizophrenic then? (just for personal intrest, as been reading about this sort of stuff for a while)

just since that anxiety attack i know have this bad habbit of repeating what people say or when watching t.v think its just me playing tricks with myself, which is stupid but and pretty annoying. but hard to control your own head sometimes. because testing my self to see if still hearing it as unsure if me or my head losing control.

sorry for my pettyness but just as so young scared that may have dont somehing that may regret for life.

but honestly thanks for reading and replying.

 

only done k a hand full of times. found that i didn't enjoy it towards the end of my drug life, at a festival is great as is big bass music and enought things to enjoy, but at home in a small room with a few people i get really uncomfortable with the feeling.

 

i dont think you need to worry at all about schitzophrenia and lsd. drugs can sometimes trigger schitzophrenia but you have to already be prone to developing the disease.
it sounds like youre just getting anxiety and uncontrollable thoughts. thats normal and i really doubt it has anything to do with your trip. That just happens to people sometimes. you should find ways to calm your anxiety and just forget about your trip; it sounds like a wasted trip anyways. wait a couple of years until youre older and have gotten your anxiety under control and try tripping again..if you do it in the right state of mind you'll find out what its all really about.

 

This is the second recent post of this nature. Makes me wonder . . .

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=410742&f=117

 

How long after I don't know. I have a family member who developed a schizo type sort of disorder after a bad trip (we don't know what the drug was) when he was in his early twenties. But (as another poster pointed out in general) he was already prone to mental illness as it runs on that side of the family. All I can say is that you would know if there was something wrong with you mentally, trust me, friends and family would see it clear as day.

For example; being paranoid that people are talking about you behind your back, completely illogical thoughts that are in no way relevant to what's going on. These are just examples.


Your quote;

is a pretty good indicator that you just have anxiety and are worrying way too much about it. Quit checking, quit testing yourself, quit worrying, and just work on quieting your mind and blocking out unnecessary thoughts. The repeating what you hear thing is just your mind creating something because you're worried.

You may be repeating what you hear because you're afraid to misinterpret what is being said because you think that you're having a hard time comprehending. Just listen and be calm, don't try to cling to what is being said.

Just relax. You're fine.

 

I highly doubt you're schizophrenic based on what you describe here. You can have anxiety issues without being schizophrenic, if it is something that requires medication I think you'd much prefer being on anti- depressants or mood stabilizer drugs than anti-psychotic drugs.

Probably work on an outlet for yourself: music, art, reading, etc. And see if that helps a bit and give it some time. Even alcohol and cigarettes are drugs you may want to try eliminate (well you probably don't WANT to but should) and possibly surround yourself with people you feel you can talk to about it and are open for healthy engaging activities .

 

oh don't get me wrong the times ethier side of the really trumatic part was increadibly fun, felt like was litterly in the 80's felt like a right hippy, actually talking all 'yeeeeaaa maaann, im chiillledd im loovin' life maaaan, this shiiit is triippy but like also coool, right' ha ha it was fun, just worried about the bit when couldn't stop my thoughts, and was halusinating voices around me all based around me. and the voices slowed got annoyed with me not being about to just shut up. i dunnno very hard to explain, but nothing like what my friends experienced that night, even though they had there own problems with it, one thought people where trying to cut his balls off. and another got really up and down emotions, apparently assalted a security guard and got evacuated out the festival ha ha

i know we seem like a bunch that can't handle drugs but up untill this one instance we have all be very sensible and stayed as a strong group haveing a really good time. is there such thing as bad acid?

 

Your mind started to race because you were fucked up, excited because it was your birthday and you were at a concert and so your mind started to race. Subliminally on another level your mind got upset that your mind was racing and so you experienced this as voices (which were of your own mind) getting upset with you that your thoughts couldn't just "shut up." Part of you wanted to chill out and enjoy the ride. Your ego was probably threatened and started to race with thoughts

Yes, I doubt yours was bad. The Manson family took bad acid.

 

this is exactly what i have done and do feel a lot better, just from time to time go into that state of mind again and get my self thinking stupid shit again, thus posting this thread for more need of convincing im not insane!

when i had the anxiety attack of weed i went straight to my mum and told her i cant stop thinking, explaining my thoughts but not the reasons behind it.

but the second time i let it slip back into my head, i went to her again and had the bollocks to tell her everything, that i did acid, and smoked weed for past year, the ups and downs of my amazing summer of festivals. straight away after her saying sam, ur not going crazy i felt my whole body relax! this is when i realised its all in my head.

since telling her we have been working on calming me. i took the legal calms, which i think worked even if placebo! read a great book on sleeping, calming my REM sleep significantly. and used the 'stop' technique to calm my thought pattern. all these have greatly helped! just as been thinking over such a long period of time is going to take a fair bit longer to completely for get these past months.

thank you so much all you forum people, honestly having a community like this thats free from judgment is exactly why i chose to take drugs. everyone (well i say everyone).... most people who take them are friendly, down to earth people who all have something in common, we like to get fucked and have fun

 

I dunno guys. Talking about acid, with a newbie that has only 6 posts....
It's a risk. Someone could be here for 5 years and have 50,000 posts and still not be who they say they are.

My suggestions is when you talk that stuff, make sure you know who you're talking to. Talk to the wrong person and you can get set up and busted.

 

How?
Only if someone is stupid enough to engage in illegal activety with someone they don't know or trust.
You can't get busted based on what you type on an internet forum.

 

You smell Troll too, huh?
I was thinking the same thing and about the same post you linked when I first saw this.
See Spicey, great minds really do think alike

 

are you sure it was "bad acid?" i don't think such a thing exists. not only cuz i love acid so much, but because i don't think there is some batch of it that will make you murder people

 

yeah, i smell troll also.:troll:

 

firstly, I would say never take drugs from a stranger.

if one of your buddies attacked a security guard, that doesn't seem like normal tripping behavior to me, so there may have been something up with the stuff you got. Tripping people don't usually get violent.

secondly, acid and tripping in general are not for everyone. If you are having weird problems with voices in your head a couple months after tripping, that is not a typical reaction. Tripping may just not be for you.

I recommend checking out some acupuncture and chinese herbal medicine. In chinese medicine terms, tripping can sometimes disturb the shen, which can be corrected with treatment. You could also try doing some meditation, and generally keep your stress level low. Don't overstimulate your mind. Try to just chill mostly till you feel better. According to traditional chinese dietary therapy, rice, wheat, rosemary and mushroom (not magic) can help to calm the mind.

Meditation is believed by many to have profound positive effects, so if your bad trip helps you get into this, you may on balance profit. Maybe you can find a meditation teacher who can show you breathing techniques.

If weird shit still keeps happening with your head after you try these methods, then I think you may want to see a psychologist.

good luck!