Is there such a thing as a Christian?

Could this be a limit?

I'm not realizing where you are getting "there is always something more to understand". Yes, they may need amendment but where are you finding that they must?

And apparently confidence and truth, too...

As long as you aren't claiming to rely on objective integrity and calling it
a suspension of judgement, i'm not disagreeing with you.

 

Understanding is dynamic because every moment is new. Once you register "understanding", it becomes something you understood, i.e., past tense.

It is a measure of understanding.

Any two creates a condition. Subjective is not shared or agreed upon.

Added feature. Whose need are you talking about?

You are not familiar with this moment, perpetually emergent, the moment of now. One of the criteria that I use in the discernment of reality is that it is not remote.

Oh, excuse me. I was confused. The answer is there is reason for faith to exist.

Suspension of judgment, yes.

Actually your definition only applies to mental effort but in that singular sense it does apply.

 

The process of judgment is arbitrary.

Where two or more agree there is "objective integrity" to the extent that objective integrity is a construct of mind. There is real and what is not real does not exist.

 

Heeh to thedope:

Understanding is ongoing. Let this at the very least be understood. What satisfaction do the facts afford us if not their fitting our hopes for them?!

 

Thedope & dejavu

To me, the satisfaction is in understanding. To understand that we are
connected to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, and to
the rest of the universe atomically seems like the fulfillment of a
hope that i never hoped for.

Its more likely some fulfillment of an innate human desire to be social, and
apart of things but thats beside the point.

This is what I understand then and now. The variables of the equation
undoubtedly change (thats why we call them variables in the first place) but
its functions are still in tact.

The logic of the equation will always stay the same because it is describing
what is. And what is will always = what is

There are an infinite number of ways to write 2+2=4

 

Though the ink in the pen is quite finite!

How could infinity ever be equal to itself?! lol

Logic is a product of consciousness.

Understanding only ever satisfies up to a point. Loving frees us from the thought of 'satisfaction'. It is the only action we do not mind losing ourselves in!

This is what I meant when I wrote that somehow the mind wants more than to become wholly kind.

 

This is a strange question....

like asking how 4 can ever equal 4.

Infinity is itself on both sides of the equation.

 

Me: How could infinity ever be equal to itself?! lol

Heeh:

I'm a strange person

The difference is that infinity, being without number, has to keep on equalling itself. 4 in remaining 4 of course must also keep equalling itself (it is after all within infinity) but unlike infinity it ceases equalling itself in any other number, ie. 4 in 32 = 8.


Have patience grasshopper, your blade, it has its history in the field. You will yet spring from your position, and feel fate fly underfoot!

 

4 = 4 was an illustration to show that infinite has to be equal to itself.

 

What a leap of faith!

Motion is constant, only the finite has to be equal to itself.

 

Motion, being constant, would be a boundless quantity.

I could just as easily write Motion = Motion

I still don't understand how you are using the word "infinity" if it can never equal itself.

 

Exactly. Infinity is never reached in equation. Mathematically speaking, it is redundant, ie. it is taken as given, and cannot be considered a constant, nor a variable.

You have to remember my question "How could infinity ever be equal to itself?" was a philosophical one, the rhetoric asking after the essence of the subject. I am not questioning its existence. Infinity can only be what it is in its endless continuity, a paradox which precludes the finitude of equality.

 

Actualy not...well,perhaps. One thing i do know,satan is a christian,he believes in Christ. HOWEVER...there are those birthed from God's seed though, 1John 3:9...but that birthing only happens on the cross! Paul says that we were crucified ...WITH...Christ,we do not live any longer,but Christ lives IN us.I was recently asked if i were a christian,and my answer was; "no,i was no christian,and there were no such a thing as a christian,but a crucifiedetian".Looking at allfged 'christians' and their rush after wealth,power,status and acknowlfgement,wanting to burn the Quran as a witness to Christ,and the intollerance of enemies ,i would say christians,real christians,CHRIST CENTRED christians are a minnority.

 

Quick answer yes there is a such thing as a Christian and yes there is a such thing as God and yes there is a such thing as hell , don't send me a postcard!

 

If I weren't the threadstarter, I might just declare you winner.

 

i declare myself the winner. (roar of applause)

 

christians are supposed to follow the bible apparantly but no one i know follows it accurately and completely. in my opinion the bible is more like a story book . it has a bunch of stories about "jesus" and other characters and it talks about stories. its nothing to go by in my opinion. yea there are things in it i follow like thou shall not kill but that's common sense i mean really. its a joke in my opinion. if anyone here is a "christian" i'm sorry but that's how i feel

 

I agree with the first part.

 

Isaiah 9:6
6 For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace...


Prithee, O travelling clown, couldst thou directest me to Robin Hood's hideout? I wouldst feign join me up with his band of jolly outlaws...

 

Under the whirling beanie.