my friend said it keeps you high for a whiiiile like youll feel it the next day and you have weird random times when you feel like your high again and its like a tug of war within yourself to stay with reality or let go true? false? good? not??
I've always heard it wasn't as good as dank, but have never actually tried spice. Have tried the JWH chems they use. They get you high. Bout all there is to say really. Chron>synthetic
Depends which spice you're talking about. Spice Gold, Spice Silver, Spice Diamond, K2 etc are all herbal blends laced with JWH-018, JWH-073 or other synthetic cannabinoids. The high is similar to weed, some can't even tell it apart, each cannabinoid is different though, some resemble indicas, some sativas, and some are quite different from the weed high. The herbal blends are a waste of money, because $30 worth of a herbal blend will earn you some random garden herbs laced with ~30mg of JWH at best, maybe even only 20mg, whereas if you spend $30 on JWH itself, you can get 1000mg. That means Spice blends have a 30-50x mark up on their products, but in reality they're making much more, because they don't buy the JWH in single grams.. If you're interested, it's worth giving a try, treat it as a cannabinoid, but not weed, and make sure you have a scale to accurately dose it as it's easy to get "too high" given the potency. Also, it needs to be vaporised rather than smoked, you can use a meth pipe, lightbulb vape, foil, a regular vaporiser, or simply sandwich it inbetween tobacco/herb and smoke that normally. However buy JWH itself rather than a blend. JWH can last from anything to 30 minutes to 5 hours depending on the actual JWH you buy, you won't feel it the next day, but it can make you feel a little "slow" or "mentally cloudy" the next day just like weed. Spice can also be a nickname for DMT. DMT, as you probably know, is one of the most powerful psychedelics both mentally and visually (experience-wise rather than dosage-wise, as the dosage is ~25-75mg usually, rather than in ug like LSD or Salvinorin A) - DMT has to be vaped just like JWH, but it is a very different drug. One of, if not the most intense psychedelic, a single experience can change someone's life. It lasts only a short while, with the peak usually lasting just several minutes, and a general high lasting about an hour. It's one of the few psychedelics where tolerance is hard to build, so people can dose several times a day without trouble. It can be found in many plants, however to extract it you need a LOT of plant matter. It can also be taken orally, however it is broken down by MAO-A, so you need to take an MAO-A inhibitor beforehand, such as the B. Caapi vine (Ayahuasca) or Syrian Rue. The oral experience lasts a LOT longer than the smoked experience, but a larger dosage is required for similar intensity. Hope this answers your question
Its great if you can't smoke weed bc of a drug test. But if i had the choice i would choose weed, I make my own "spice"
I've tried very few spice brands (k2 Summit, k2 Blonde, Black Mamba and an online company), out of all of them, the Summit has had the second best effect on me (next to the online one). if you'd like the online one, let me know. 2 bowls usually had me out of it
thanks this really helped!! do is DMT legal too?? ive always wanted to try it but i dont know what to use to "vaporize it" .. why cant i just smoke it?? thanks for all the info about spice though
DMT is technically not legal but some plants and root bark that carry it are legal so some people extract it from those sometimes. Vaporizing it, is basically smoking/inhaling it out of what would traditionally be considered a crack pipe. You can just smoke DMT, which is what I do but it burns very easily, is very small crystal material and is pretty harsh smoke so how I get around some of these problems is sandwhiching it between an herb (usually damiana for me but you can even use weed) and using that to kind of give some padding below it so it doesn't fall through the stem hole, it also doesn't make the smoke quite as harsh and some damiana on top which lessens the chances of burning the DMT.
I'm not sure if it was intentional but a nickname for DMT is spice, so it's amusing that you brought up DMT in this thread.
^ Got it all there pretty much. When you sandwich it between herbs/tobacco then you're allowing some of it to vaporise, so that's more efficient than smoking it regularly, probably your best bet if you don't want to vaporise it. It's not all that inefficient.
sweet now i just wish i knew where to find some haha! And oh it wasn't intentional, i was talking about synthetic weed, but ive always been interested in DMT anayway.. so yay, a double win
We Called DMT 'New Shoes'... For obvious reasons (assuming you've smoked/vaped it). Just tried some spice like incense about 4 hours ago. I was very surprised how similar to herb it was! It had subtle differences, contrasted with striking similarities. Took one small-moderate hit, and was pretty high for about an hour and a half, maybe two. At first i was a bit anxious, as is the norm when trying out a new drug, for me. That quickly subsided and some familiar effects began to kick in such as tunnel vision (not sure how else to describe it), time dilation, and mood enhancement. The only real difference I could put my finger on, was the high wasn't quite as comfortable. I don't mean it wasn't enjoyable, more like it wasn't as familiar. I didn't know what to expect. This made it an all new experience. That may account for some of the dissimilarities I noticed. More testing will follow. The stuff i bought looks like this: Doesn't have a brand name other than those 3 wavy X's, which I think refers to the strength. The 1X was $15/gram. The 3X was $20/g. The only thing actually written on the container was 'not for human consumption', and a list of flavors. I picked original. Tastes like smoking the leafy greens from your moms spice rack. Bought it at the headshop. The girl who worked there was acting really funny, trying to talk in code, and I got the impression she genuinely didn't know anything. Regardless, it got me nice and toasty. I was surprised how strong it was. A word of advice, start slow, you can always smoke more... Probably gonna go ahead and order some JWH-018 and make my own blend. Id feel a little safer knowing what's in it.
the one that shows up in one of the banners, Zen Incense, is pretty fucking awesome... if you mean spice as in those jwh-blends
i worry about the people who say DMT smells like shoes! WTF?!? Good, clean DMT has a light floral scent. Period. How could i have missed the development of a sub-DMT theme? Wow. Royaltramp's summary was excellent. Guerrilabedlam had good info too. It is IDEAL to vaporize the DMT molecule. IMHO it produces a different type of trip. Hate to say it, but that molecule does not appreciate being burned and let's users know. The slang term "spice" for DMT comes from people at another website i no longer use (HATE! HATE!! HATE!!!!!! and that's not like me . . . . .) - the original reference being to the famous novel by Frank Herbert, "Dune." Read this book and you will UNDERSTAND. Herbert sure as fuck GOT THE MESSAGE. Vaporization is very difficult without a Vaporgenie pipe. Here's why: DMT melts at 116 to 120 F and boils/vaporizes at approx. 180. That's not very hot. Even compared to boiling water. Compared to the heat of a flame or torch, holy shit, it's no wonder everyone burns their spice and it burns them right back (metaphorically)! GB's "sandwich" method is classic and okay IMHO. It basically eases the harsh physical impact of burning DMT. If you do not have special equipment, try to never let the flame touch the DMT - hold it at least 1/4 inch above and gently draw the heat (not the flame) through your spice or herb sandwich. The DMT should melt, then bubble, then make white vapor. Take as much in as you can on the first hit and hold as long as you can. It IS caustic, but unlike pot or salvia it is COOL and you can take it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwUi4lLpVGQ"]YouTube - bassnectar - blast off
I figured they were referring to the smell but he threw in that stipulation of it being smoked and i think the new shoes' would only refer to before its smoked. I agree with you spicey its much more floral. After its smoked its stiinky...
If you burn it, the room immediately smells like burning plastic and after awhile like old gym socks. But, if you properly vaporize it, there is NO scent, or only the scent of herbal oils if you vaporize in a changa form. My husband hated how i stunk up the room BEFORE i got the Vaporgenie. Now he loves it. Sometimes he will not see me take any hits and after the session is over (i vape DMT he plays 3-D immersive computer games) he asks if i took any hits! He doesn't smell it.
