Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome

lol@stoners who freak the fuck out when somebody claims weed can cause negative effects in some people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_hyperemesis_syndrome

 

I'd say I lol @ people who think someone pointing out facts to counter misinformation is 'freaking out', but it is an all too common response these days to be funny.

 

I'd guess they think it's kewl to provoke...

 

i know it pisses me off, seems like some people won't accept anything anti cannabis and just spout loads of really cliche pro weed stuff which is so tedious.

Everyone knows DMT is better.

 

Skip, Im beginning to agree with the additive part. I have been getting slowly better over the last couple of years, living back here in NZ, I still get ill but episodes are fewer and farther between.This may be important and I may have not mentioned this, but, I got sick in Australia, living in Brisbane, all the weed I smoked was however, bought up from South Australia. This was in 2005 - 2007. This being said, Pot does help hugely with nausea, but I'm still getting sick sometimes.

I don't mean for this discussion to become anti-pot and am sorry if I've come across that way - I'm not. I'm just trying to find out whats up with me and I have tried everything tested everything had fucking cameras & tubes up everywhere and this is a recent possibility that I'm exploring because it's symptoms are 100% me. I'm still leaning towards adultarant's in Australia partly because I don't want to knock pot.

I'll probably get people from Australia telling me not to knock their pot now, especially being from NZ.

 

I think i have this, have been smoking for 8 years, dam it. Get the nausea for a day or two every few months, can eat only for a few weeks, then start throwing up every 5 minutes until i cant stand it and end up going to the hospital. But if i have weed it will knock it on the head first cone!

 

My only issue with this is the way in which this is being presented as a pot related issue. The symptoms people are experiencing are obviously real to them and thats all that matters to them.

The science behind labeling this as a pot related disease is shoddy at best, and purposeful misinformation (lies) at the worst.

SailAway, if you really want to find out if it is related to pot, then grow a couple of different strains (high indica, mixed and high sativa) organically yourself and smoke them... See what happens, it is the ONLY way to make sure it isnt related to an additive.

 

I like Skip's theory. I think its plausible that in rare cases a human body can develop a dependency in which it relies on pot use to produce cannaboids and when cessation of pot occurs the body goes into a sort of shock in which normal digestive functions are shut down.

not dissin on chronic, chronic tom. I love pot. I think its the greatest thing in the world, and I think it should be used medicinally as much as possible in the place of modern medicine because its side effects are mild in comparison with most pharmaceuticals. However, every herb on this planet can cause some kind of reaction and side effects in the rare individual. That doesn't mean anyone should use that as a reason to throw the benefits of the herb straight out the window. A condition in which chronic, long-term cannabis use has been linked doesn't neccessarily have to be anti or pro-marijuana. I think an open mind should be kept when determining the cause of a condition like this.

I think, based on the information i've read, the only things that can really be determined are that this is somehow linked to chronic, long term cannabis use, it may or may not be caused by pesticides or molds or anything else picked up in Australia (that sounds entirely plausible too, seeing as the OP lives in NZ and all the other cases were in Australia), it may or may not be caused by a dependency of the body on pot to stimulate cannaboids that aid in digestion, and it may or may not be linked to cannabis at all, and could be entirely coincidental that all users were one-time chronic chronic users.

I only hope this condition doesn't get blown out of proportion to be used as anti-pot propoganda.

 

And this is one of the parts I don't agree with seems the very definition of the disorder includes long term cannabis use... ANY evidence that proves that it isn't linked to cannabis (ie, someone who doesn't use pot gets this syndrome) the information is just ignored as irrelevant, seems they don't have a history of long term use which is the main indicator of CHS.

 

i think that would be a good test.
what he should do is

1. try eating cannabis for say 2 weeks, about 2 doses a day. see how that affects you compared to the smoking as skip said.

and 2. grow your own plants, and test out the additive theory.

that will let you know if its actually the marijuana or not.

because the herb might be the only think actually keeping you healthy right now it might not be related to herb at all.

 

did you find any information concerning individuals who developed this syndrome without a long term history of cannabis use? It does seem possible to me that because the very definition includes chronic long term use that a person who doesn't smoke pot but shows up with these symptoms would be diagnosed with something else. Kind of reminds me of legionaires disease..I read about that a couple of years ago, i can't remember much of what I read but I do remember the author of the book hypothesized that doctors diagnosing legionaires disease attributed it to one thing when in reality the common link between all patients was entirely coincidental and the source of the disease came from something completely different..thats a bit vague i know, its all i can remember. i'm going to have to find that book and reread it.

what are the weed laws in australia and new zealand? I wonder how easy it would be to trace the source of the marijuana and find out if it were pesticides causing this without getting the source into some kind of legal trouble?

 

People who dont have a history chronic cannibus use, but present with similar symptoms usually get diagnosed with CVS (Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome) another syndrome with no real cause or triggers. I don't think anyone really knows

 

Maybe it's all the same syndrome and weed just makes it worse in some people?

 

or masks it, or cures the symptoms until a tolerance is developed...

 

I'm eighteen years old and I think I may have the same problem. I've smoked weed many times a day for well over two years now. After the first year, I started to notice that I wasn't able to eat much without smoking weed. I didn't think much of it, because I'd seen this much happen to alot of people.

As time went on, I was not able to eat anything at all without first getting high. And from there it only got worse. There isn't a single morning that I don't wake up with severe nausea, which slowly alleviates throughout the day. While I very seldom vomit as a result of this problem, the abdominal pains are getting increasingly worse.

I decided I'd take a break from smoking for about a week and see what happened. The symptoms never fully subsided in that time, but they were noticably better toward the end of my break. Feeling encouraged by those results, I decided to smoke just one joint last night. Sure enough, I woke up early this morning with extreme nausea, and ended up vomitting.

I don't know what I believe on this whole issue. I think both sides present good arguments for the most part. And I don't intend to slander weed's good name in any way. I love weed, and I wouldn't smoke it regularly if I didn't. I created this account simply to share what's happening to me personally. I look forward to any feedback you guys have.

Also, I buy all sorts of different weed, but know very little about what their specific chemical potency is. So if it is just a certain cannabanoid causing the problem as some have suggested, I have no way of knowing. I think the dependence thing is the most logical theory so far, supposing that weed is even what's responsible.

 

People should really keep in mind that what you believe has a lot to do with how pot affects you.

If for some reason, your mind/body decided at some point that you should smoke before you eat, then it is quite capable of making that a reality.

Look at the whole issue of whether or not pot gives a person the munchies... you will find many many many people who swear up and down that weed has this effect, but for some people, they use weed because they feel it helps with nausea and lets them eat when they otherwise wouldn't be able to, and yet others, use weed as an appetite suppressant.

 

The legal fake marijuana is worse then the illegal real weed... lol go figure...