11 Things The Bible Bans

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  1. TipsyGypsy

    TipsyGypsy Light of a Fading Star

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    I guess as the man, you have the rights..
     
  2. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Yes, but who wrote it? Not god.


    Someone who thought either that's what god would want, or they personally wanted it wrote that and it ended up in the bible.
     
  3. TipsyGypsy

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    Oh, well we're both going to hell anyway :rolleyes:
     
  4. TipsyGypsy

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    God dictated to Moses what to write, if God didn't want all those people to have been killed by what man have made 'His word' he could have changed that. As always though, when it's something good - it's because of God, but when it's something bad - it's because of man.
     
  5. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Well, not that I'm going to convince you of anything you wouldn't have, but there's quite a bit of evidence that suggests god (in the bible) was and appeared in smoke.

    When Moses is at the alter burning the sacrament, god appears to him from a pillar of smoke. God also appears in front of him at the burning bush, smoke. It's suggested that Moses may have been burning sacrament that had cannabis as an ingredient. Perhaps he was just high and thought that some people needed to be killed. There's a lot of convincing evidence in favour of this argument (cannabis use as sacrament in the bible). I'm not sure that I completely believe it, but it makes more sense than the traditional version, in my opinion.
     
  6. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    For what!???
     
  7. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    One point I noticed in that "list" on the linked site is that a lot of the things mentioned, hair style, tattoos, etc. have to do with the fact that the Hebrews were literally surrounded by other cultures and religions and those things were practiced by the other religions. So a lot of the laws pertained to the Hebrews being distinct from other religions of the time. Same with the whole short hair for men, long hair for women mentioned by Paul in the New Testament. It had nothing to do with hair, but everything to do with not being mistaken or associated with "pagan" religions of the time.

    A little history and understanding of the surrounding cultures of the time goes a long way to understanding the Bible. To me history is one of the most important things to consider when studying the Bible, the Bible is after all mostly a history of the Hebrews and subsequent early Christians. That alone sets it apart from all other major religions which often are more of a "how to primer". Add to that the fact that the Biblical history of the Hebrews records both their victories and their defeats, completely contrary to other cultures of the time, all others culture of that time never recorded their defeats. That in my mind lends it more credibility, at least as far as the historical record is concerned.
    That is what is known as an intrinsic truth or validation and is one of the things looked for to consider the validity of any historical document or account. The Bible is full of little clues that help give validation to it and it's authors.
    Example; The Gospel of Mark was directed at Romans living in Rome, not Jews. Yet it uses the term Son of Man in reference to Jesus more than any other, including the Gospel of Matthew which was directed at Jews. Big deal you say. Well the term Son of Man was a Hebrew Messianic term, a term that would mean nothing to a Roman audience but held significance for Jews, so why did Mark employ it so much? The intrinsic truth is that Mark truly believed that Jesus was the messiah and did not try to tailor the story to be more convincing, but rather relayed what he believed to be the truth.

    In order to really study and appreciate the Biblical accounts, you also need to study more than just the Bible.
    The events reported in the Bible did not occur in a cultural vacuum, although a lot treat it as such.
     
  8. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

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    If I had a time machine I'd go back and trip with Moses on Mt. Sinai.
     
  9. TipsyGypsy

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    It's a possibility. Something we'll never know. Although, God did still send His only son to be killed, and will send millions of people to burn for eternity in Hell. So, even if He didn't speak the words into the OT, he is still condoning and causing a lot of death.
     
  10. TipsyGypsy

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    You really think we would be going to Heaven?!

    I could write a list of why not... although I would say the easy answer is for not believing in God :confused:
     
  11. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Death is a natural transitional stage of all organic life. So naturally god, if we consider him/it to be responsible for the creation of all life, is also by technicality responsible for all death.

    Jesus was a man. No more of a son or daughter than you or I. Every single human being who has ever lived came from and goes to the same place, is made of the same flesh, and goes by the same name. There is no such thing as an exlusive human being, it's as impossible as being incomplete. Nothing is incomplete, everything that is is whole in itself.

    Hell, in my opinion is a metaphorical state which represents our emotional and spiritual environment. If we choose to be miserable unhappy people, then we are already in "Hell". However, in my opinion, when we die, there are perhaps a million things that can become of us. A rocky dungeon of fire and brimstone run by a serpent bent on destruction and evil who hangs out in a lake of fire is extremely unlikely.
     
  12. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    heaven sounds like attending an eternal Cliff Richard concert, anyways

    Hell? Fuckin' Woodstock baby :hurray:
     
  13. TipsyGypsy

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    That brings up a number of questions. Like, why does there have to be death?
    I guess it depends on how literally you take the Bible - it does say Hell is a fiery torment, or something similar, which means eternal pain for simply not believing in a God who no one has ever seen. People like to pick and choose with the Bible, and it's always the bad left out.
     
  14. hotwater

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    Agreed the chances are 1 in a billion but I’m not willing to play those odds considering the consequences :hide:

    You hear me up there God - Good [​IMG]


    Hotwater
     
  15. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Think of it this way; if back then someone had said, "We don't die, there is no such things as death. Our body, a temporary vessel, expires because it is made up of things called cells, which after decades of absorbing nutrients die because they slowly get worn down and slowly take in less protein which causes them to become weaker and thus unable to make new ones anymore. Death is wholly necessary in order to expose us to the truth of what the universe really is. It's only through death that we are able to fully realize that this earthy world is only one single grain of sand in a limitless world, and we, its inhabitants, know nothing of what the universe really is as long as we're here. Body death is real, absolute death is just a dream. When we die, we are restored to our true selves, a grain of sand of energy, able to travel throughout the universe at will and experience all which is contained within. We return to the same body of energy from whence we came, and of which we were never really separate. Most come around again for another go, having no memory of a previous life as that would only create fear and confusion, we were wiped like a clean slate. We are never separate of all that is everything, this energy that is everything is called god. God is us, and we are god. We are never separate from god, no matter what we may think."

    If someone had said this 2000 years ago they would have been stoned to death for being a witch. So we can understand why those who knew this wrote stories in metaphor, they'd be easier to understand that way. People however have taken them seriously, maybe because they have no imagination and they feel alone in such a vast universe. So they created a watchful eye to keep them warm at night, like a teddy bear, so as to never have to feel alone again.

    Just my opinion.


    Also, I'm willing to bet that the christian god didn't exist before man developed his own morality.
     
  16. PEACEFUL LIBRA

    PEACEFUL LIBRA DAMN RIGHT I'M A WEIRDO

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    people's fascination with death is scary
     
  17. The Imaginary Being

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    yeah, I was just thinking that.
     
  18. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

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    Things you can not understand are often fascinating. So I would just correct your statement by changing "is" to "can be".
     
  19. TipsyGypsy

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    We're all going to die one day - no matter what. And, if it turns out that there is a God, I don't care, because I am not going to follow all of the hate in the Bible (whether or not it is the exact word of God ) just to save myself whilst millions of other people who are probably much nicer and more kind than I am die.

    I don't mind what people believe, but Christianity really isn't for me. It's a nice idea, but based on a lot of horrible things.
     
  20. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    It's mostly based on fear, power, greed, and twisted morality which only serves to keep certain people powerful.

    I think many of the rest who buy in are simply looking for an absolute answer to everything all at once. Better to have one answer to a million questions then to have a million questions with a million possible answers.
     
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