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Anyone else find the 2C's dull and not even slightly spiritual? i've done E, I, T-7, T-2 and soon B. Even 60mg 2C-I was pure ugly, boring and disgusting. Too much stimulation, all about the Tryps IMO. Except those 5-MeO's are a bit grim as well. Psilocin analogues are the way forward i think, need to try 4-HO-MET.

 

Absolutely not. 60mg of 2c-e was extremely profound and spiritual for me, and I would never describe any of my experiences with a proper dose of any PEA as ugly, boring, or disgusting. They do tend to have a good amount of stimulation, but have you tried to meditate during a trip to smooth it out? It is extremely rewarding. I think one of the beauties of these chems is that you must invoke those spiritual qualities yourself, it will not be forced upon you. PEAs are more recreational than most psychedelics, but I still wholeheartedly disagree with you.

 

I've had all fun experiences on 2C but i find them disgusting, i exaggerate a bit with the word boring but 2C-E 30mg to me is a sick toxic feeling with intense extremely uninspiring ugly visuals, they look cool for an hour or two then i'm just bored of it. T-7 is the only one which didn't feel sloppy and had some insight IME.

Maybe the bodyload ruins it for me but do you know what i mean when i say they feel and look really Synthetic. DMT, LSD, 4-AcO-DMT, with these around i don't find any use for 2C. Maybe a combo would be good but i'd risk major sickness on an intense trip, think ill stick to K for Psy enhancement.

 

I found my 35mg dose of t7 to be shockingly spiritual. It felt like "super acid" in a way, it was very supernatural, wise, and ancient.

2c-b was a deep confirmation of the joy of being here, now, in this form, a true celebration of the body, senses, and love.

I used to hate on the 2c's as well until I tried those two.

2c-e is weird for me . . . even at 60mg I get zero entheogenic effects, just sensorial.

 

I don't hate on them, they hate on my body/brain!! i just describe how it treats me, just being honest.

If people like it then good for them, it's cheap and easy to get. Personally i prefer my 230ug clean white crystal LSD tabs, get em cheap as well. I'm from the UK.

 

4-AcO-DMT felt more "synthetic" than any chem I have ever taken (well, besides xanax), so really it's just a case of different strokes. Sucks for you, because I can enjoy them all! haha

 

My 4-AcO-DMT experience differ EXTREMELY from dose to setting, every dose i've done feels like another drug in how different the trip is. How many times you done it?

 

How do you rate AMT, i have 50mg and am hoping it isn't too speedy.

 

Ya I need to try it again before I can truly comment on it but I doubt I will get around to it for awhile. I've done it once, at 35mg. And I've never done AMT.

 

Some 4-AcO-DMT trips are like Psilocybin others are like long lasting DMT! Did some at a festival and got floored for 5 hours, could barely see with all the visuals.

 

man, i got my 4-aco-dmt waiting for me but i dont have a suitable time or setting to use it yet.
that blows.

 

What dose you going for, i'd advise to put it on the tongue then wash it down.

 

I love the 2c's. Maybe not 2c-e, but I definitely have fallen in love with B and C. They free my mind up to the most wonderful state. I have yet to have a real trip with I (had a like half trip once sort of) but look forward to it. And the only Psilocin analogue I have had was 4-aco-dmt which was nice but I would have liked to go farther with it. But I think on my list of wonderful drugs it is definitely after B.

 

what do you mean?
as in just put the dose on my tongue and drink some water?
im kinda aiming for around 30mgs.

 

i have a strong affinity for all tryptamines. The jury remains out on phens. i seem to have a harder time physically and psychologically on them overall . ..Thus, i tend to dose in such a way that i cannot go all the way to the deep end. Tryptamines on the other hand tend to welcome me into the deep end with open molecular arms.

 

leave it on your tongue for a little while then wash down, comes on fast. DO NOT SNIFF IT, sniffed 30mg while on 20mg oral and nothing happened!

 

Same.

 

I've yet to try a 2-C, quite liked AMT but i feel i could have done with something similar but stronger. Again though, i'd tried acid for the first time a couple of weeks before so it wasn't really fair to compare it to that as i did at the time.

 

I find 2ci, even at high doses to be shallow.. but 2ce, t2, t7, b were all very intense and spiritual between 20-30mgs. 2cc scares me because you have to take so much to get a breakthrough dose and i just dont feel compelled to take 2cp do to the mixed reports i got on how strong it is. the tryps i have tried like 5 meo dipt 4 ho mipt were great at 20-30 mgs but the 5 meo dalt and 5 meo mipt i had to take large doses for breakthrough but i they were great too!

 

only phens i've tried are mescaline, 2cb,2ci,and 2ct7- I don't think any are dull but mescaline is the only one I would call spiritual. trytamines generally are definately more grounding and spiritual. like others have mentioned though I think phens do have potential you just have to dig for it yourself rather than how natural it comes with tryptamines.