This needs to happen more often

what about the one "cop" who was beating the guy with a stick, even though he was clearly adequately restrained?

and are they even real cops? at a futbol game I would assume just security guards, but in europe I could be mistaken

 

right on

 

Okay...that's like a turtle saying, WE ARE NOT reptiles, we are turtles. LOL. Yes, yes, we can rise above our origins but I hope you realize quoting Richard Dawkins doesn't help your cause. Read "The God Delusion"...again.

Evolution has simply left our species with the highest form of survival traits. These traits unique to our species makes us "human".

Furthermore, watching "police" brutalize unnecessarily is "aping the nastiness of nature". Yes, all these fans were out of control. They should have subdued the cops and arrested them for excessive force. A strange situation indeed.

But what your missing is the fact that in America today, we live in a police state veiled by reality TV and cheap, mindless entertainment. Law enforcement's job is to protect and serve. Law enforcement in America abuse's it's power regularly. The public's distrust of police is a reflection of our government. We are not independent and free. But we turn a blind eye to the increasing disappearance of our rights as long as they don't directly impact US.

Example: Tax brackets, marriage discrimination, The Federal Reserve. Immigration.

Simply put: Whenever government starts to look like "Big Brother", people will notice.

This theme is widely seen throughout American history: Just a few examples: Read Farenheit 451, watch V for Vendetta(British), read a book by any civil rights leader.

p.s. SYGU

 

I've never read The God Delusion and haven't planned on it. But it's a damn good quote and if you don't recognize that, then go ahead and attack the man who said it, not the content. But I hope you realize when you do that, you start off looking pretty bad.

If that's all that you think makes us human, that is truly sad. I embrace being human not an animal, so I do not mercilessly beat another human who is helpless on the ground, even if he just "brutalized" another human.

Cute rant, sounds like things I realized back in junior high when I got into punk music. I was missing it, I'm glad you found it for me .

You really just sound like someone who's trying to show me "THE MAN" because I'm some blind sheep that would let cops or the government do whatever they want. Well that is not the case. My point was pretty basic: one beating does not deserve another. If you can't see that then you are just as bad as those pigs beating on that one dude or those pigs beating on those security guards. A "pig" to me isn't just a cop who abuses power, it's anyone who does. You think you are wise to how shit really is, but in the end, you are just as bad as them by supporting violence like this.

I say let's continue to evolve the way we interact with the world rather than embracing animalistic instincts that we are capable of rising above. It's time for humans to expect more out of ourselves or we will never improve. Sadly, I will never see it completely happen, but I spread the message when I can.

 

I'm curious how many of you that have posted in this thread with the sentiment of "Fuck the Man!" are also opposed to private gun ownership in America, 2nd amendment?

If you are against gun ownership, yet in favor of this type of "movement" then you really need to re-check your logic and ideals.

As far as the clip, using brutal and unnecessary violence as a justification for more violence is just lame and ignorant.

 

Gotta side with neuro here- not that I can't empathize with the other side of things- I certainly can...

Violent overreactions- even in mob situations- only demonstrate our inability to conduct ourselves with civility to those who would exploit a situation to justify curtailing our freedoms and liberties. It would be cathartic in a way to "release the beast" on a cop who has stepped outside the bounds of reason but in doing so would only show that we're no better than the cop. There are ways to make ourselves "heard" that will result in our losing what little voice we do have because we'll be acting like animals in need of forcible restraint. Leave the brutality to the power hungry cops so that the world will see them for what they are without viewing us as deserving recipients.

Our ability to tell right from wrong exist for us to control our own behavior and not to justify crossing lines in dealing with others.

 

I hate police brutality as much as the next guy, but this shouldn't have happened. The wrong police officer was beaten, and 40 on 1/kicking someone in the head while they're down is just cowardly.

 

That's Terrible. Humans are gross.

 

one of the best posts i have seen in a while.

i wholeheartedly agree.... i was pretty disgusted when i saw this. i noticed all the replies encouraging shit like this, and i didnt feel like starting a debate so i just kept my mouth shut. besides, you said it better than i could have, +rep if i can.

people really think behavior like this is the way to bring about positive change? if people really encourage shit like this, i suggest you take a step back and do some serious reflecting... i dont even know what else to say.. it brings to mind a quote from the Tao that i think is definitely applicable here:

i hope some people do some reflecting on this.

 

The cop who was beating the guy with the stick wasn't being kicked in the head. If the person had been watching what was going on, he might have noticed who did what and who did not. If all he saw was somebody just being restrained there wasn't any need to kick the cop in the head over and over and over.

Ok, I'm not sure if they are cops. But we have cops at football matches, so I presume they do too. I guess we could do some research if we really wanted to.

 

Take a walk through Youtube regarding British football hooliganism.

 

Not all the fans were out of control.
Not all the cops were using excessive force.

Just sayin'

 

I'm surprised no one's taken the opportunity to hate on soccer just yet

Those fans took into their hands exactly what a court could have done, especially considering the obvious video evidence, and in that case no innocent officer would have been mercilessly beaten. Only one person should have had to pay the price for those actions and it was the officer who committed them. Not to say people shouldn't stop officers from unnecessarily beating a man, but they shouldn't stop the officers in a way involving even more unnecessary force, that's simply illogical justice.

 

I guarantee that NONE of those officers would've been punished, had the fans not taken it into their own hands, so I think what happened is exactly what NEEDED to happen. Cops operate with what is essentially a street-gang mentality, so kicking the shit out of one of them is like kicking the shit out of all of them, and vice versa. When one of them deserves to be brutalized, ALL of them deserve to be brutalized, because it's a "clique" type of scenario; us against them, and so-called "street justice" is better than no justice, imo.

 

What makes me mad is almost all cops that i have came across act and talk as if they are untouchable. For me and people i know, when this kind of thing happens, it puts reality into place.

Even if one gets hurt when he was not doing the punishment, he is still helping the other, fighting for the same bullshit.

That is wrong.

 

Your anger is misguided, cops just follow orders. Sure, some cops take things too far, but every group has extremists. It's not fair to throw a label on all police officer's just because you've had a few bad encounters. Cops are HUMAN, just like us, they can make mistakes. It's just like judging a certain race or group of people because you've had bad experiences with a few of them. 9/11 for example... Look what it's done to Muslims....

Many of my close friends are in training to become police officers, they smoke weed and chill out just like I do. Obviously that will change eventually, but the point is they aren't that different. They have parents, children, and friends just like you and I.

Most police officers get into it because they want to protect and serve the people. Don't forget about all the murderers, rapists, pedophiles, wife beaters, etc. police keep from harming you and your family.

Police are needed in our society, but there needs to be a proper balance. It's not perfect, but it's better than having no one to protect you when you really need it.