Nudists vs Swingers at French Naked City

Discussion in 'Bare It! Nudism and Naturism' started by skip, Sep 24, 2010.

  1. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Well it had to happen sooner or later. The French have a fondness for nudity, especially in the summer along its beautiful beaches. One such town, dubbed "Naked City" is famous as a nudist haven, in fact many nudists have moved there permanently to enjoy the naturist lifestyle.

    But now it seems the town is being taken over by "swingers" who get a bit carried away by the nudity and have taken to performing sex acts in public sometimes in view of children.

    This has caused the nudists/naturists to complain because their lifestyle isn't about sex, especially in public. They feel that the swingers along with new raunchy hotels in the city have changed it from a naturist paradise into a hedonistic destination.

    What do you think about this conflict in lifestyles? Can nudists and swingers get along?

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...nd-swingers-at-war-in-Frances-Naked-City.html
     
  2. Amontillado

    Amontillado Member extraordinaire Lifetime Supporter

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    Yeah, it's a tragedy. The nudists want to re-create Eden, and people with a different agenda have to show up and turn it into a sex fest. I'm sure the nudists are saying "Why here?" And what's the answer to that, to claim that if clothes aren't required then it must be a place where all social rules have been repealed?

    Can they get along? Well sure, if the swingers have their fun somewhere else! Otherwise no. It'll become a swingers' village and the nudists will be the ones who go somewhere else, assuming there is a somewhere else.
     
  3. samson

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    i find the irony delicious!!

    The nudists probably feel put down in other places, but in the spot where they rule they have no probs "dictating" what others should be up to! Ha!
     
  4. skip

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    I've thought about this a bit, and the picture above reinforces my conclusion.

    What you are seeing a Generation Gap!

    Look at the pic above. All those nude bodies, eh? What would you say is their average age based upon those you see? Probably 50+. Those are the naturists. They come from my generation.

    My guess is the "swingers" are probably in their 20s to 30s, still good looking, part of the "E" generation. No the E doesn't stand for Europe, but it is more of a European phenomenon.

    If that's the case, then the nudists should enjoy watching the hot bods parading around. In fact, it appears they are all turned towards the beach like they were either chased away, or perhaps they're engaging in some voyeurism themselves?

    Also isn't the main tenet of nudism that it's natural, hence naturism?

    So what's so unnatural about getting a little nookie?

    While I don't think it needs to be a public spectacle, how hard is it to avert one's eyes if it offends?

    I'm thinking there may be some exaggeration here by the nudists. I don't hear the swingers complaining that the nudists don't want to have sex, which would be a logical swinger complaint if it was a "swinger's city" and so many there didn't want to swing!

    So who is being more tolerant?

    This reminds me of the sixties/seventies. And Free Sex.

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    The pic above is a group of original hippies from Germany around 1900... They started it!
     
  5. Smark

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    Interesting thing is in Germany FKK (FreiKorperKulture) meaning free body culture while originally meant nudist's is now more connected with swingers,

    In Gemany every city has FKK clubs which are basically swinger clubs most of the FKK clubs have hookers working there too but they are aimed mainly at swingers as there are enough brothels around.

    ive seen swinger couples from early 20's to late 60's its not something thats limited to people in their 20-30's it more like late 20's-40s and from my experience mostly married couples or those in a long term relationship trying something new but it may vary from country to country im just speaking from my experience in Germany.

    Swinging can make or break your relationship and its not something to be entered into lightly, once the line is crossed theres no going back. It's acceptable to attend swinger clubs and not participate, everything is about freedom of choice and many people do attend but not participate. My advice is if you and your partner feel comfortable about giving it a go then its an interesting and somewhat liberating experience but if either of you have doubts then forget it coz it wont end well.
     
  6. newbie-one

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    Seems like the best thing to do is to have a separate swinger's sex beach (or other designated swinger's hangout) and another area just for naturism. It seems like people ought to be able to coexist and respect each others differences.
     
  7. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    It's because some people cannot tell the difference between sex and nudity.
     
  8. barefootlocks

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    Really? In front of kids? Show some respect people!
     
  9. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    I definitely align more with the nudists than the swingers in this situation. I see no reason that public sex should be allowed anywhere that children could be.
     
  10. newbie-one

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    I'm ok with people have sex in the outdoors, as well as in a place where they can be seen by others, but that place should be a designated area. Sex in the view of children or in the view of people who are not agreeing to be spectators is a problem.
     
  11. lunarverse

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  12. Heat

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    Many nudist/naturalists do include the whole family in the lifestyle. That any child should have to walk around and be exposed to people having sex in the open is rather taking it too far on the part of anyone, be it they are swingers or nudists.

    Too bad people did not use just common sense?
     
  13. boguskyle

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    i guess it sux for the ideals being said, but at the same time sex in public is very occasionally found in clothed societies, i think its normal. but the raunchy hotels is just disrespectful. just move over to the next city at least.
     
  14. thedope

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    Why is there a prohibition on children witnessing sex. I saw animals having sex when I was a kid. It is really difficult sometimes to separate reason from cultural
    hysteronics.
     
  15. lunarverse

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    I think because of reasoning. People could educate children on sex, have them witness it, and tell them that if it happens, use protection. Naturally children are going to want to emulate what they see, that's how they learn.

    How many 12 year olds do you think would take proper measures? Many adults don't. We can't have a boom in 12 year olds having babies, although it's starting to head that way anyways.
     
  16. Heat

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    I have also grown up seeing animals have sex. My children have also but I quite honestly do not think I would want them watching me have sex. Nor do I wish to view them having sex.

    To be honest, I really do not have a craving to watch anyone else have sex.
     
  17. Duck

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    Yup, surely avoiding teen pregnancy and STDs are markings of cultural hysteria.
     
  18. thedope

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    Early education works. Many people have self conscious anxieties about sex because they don't know what is going on.
    I don't think children necessarily need to have demonstrations but certainly good technical understanding of reproduction, the need for harmonious consensual relations and to respect the desire for privacy between couples.

    I certainly did take proper measures and I don't masturbate in public. I didn't become regularly sexually active until about 18 although I had isolated experiences from the age of 15. I had known about sex and body function from around age 8 and there are no pregnant twelve year old's on my account.
    We wondered about and talked about sex, got information from older siblings if from nowhere else. For kids to see people screwing on the beach is no more offensive to kids than seeing animals mating in season, but for that
    puritanical hysteria woven into mans view of himself.
     
  19. thedope

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    What I am saying is incidental contact is not harmful in it's own right.
     
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