My worst trip

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by koptravis, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. koptravis

    koptravis Member

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    Yesterday I took 3 hits of high dosage lucy at my apartment. My buddy and I had planned to do it and he ended up having to do something else so I decided to to do it myself. About 3 hours in I I was tripping super hard blasting dubstep on my sterio while smoking a bowl having a great time until I realized that my heart was beating rather fast. I turned the music down now paying more attenition to it. I went into the other room thinking it was the music that was making my heart race. I started obsessing on it until the point I literally thought I was going to to die. it felt like my heart was going to explode and was extremely loud ringing in my ears. It was absolutely horrible. I had created a bad vibe now in basically everyroom in my apmt and decided to leave and go on a bike ride. The whole entire time iit was replaying in my head and I jus could not make it stop. I honestly feel like it gave me schizophrenia like conditions. Its now the day after from a sleepless night and I feel fine although a little down because I thought nothing like that could ever to me. But I am only human and now will never under estimate taking acid alone. U need a companionship with someone and hear a voice other then ur thoughts because they can take over. I am unsure how long I will wait unti I do it again.
     
  2. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    Learn how to take your own pulse.. then you can measure your heart rate next time you think it's beating fast.
    Or measure it for someone else who's worried. It's a good skill to have.
     
  3. koptravis

    koptravis Member

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    Ya I that's a really good idea because I wanted to do that but lacked the knowledge how and I was withough a watch. Don't u count ur pulse for 10 seconds then times by 6? It seems like that would be accurate
     
  4. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    You could do that.

    I usually place my figers right where the end of the jaw meets the neck (I feel my pulse better there than at my wrist) and then count for 15 seconds multiplied by 4.
     
  5. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

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    Haha man I check my pulse everytime I trip, on my wrist with the tips of my index and middle finger. I love thinking about how complex our minds are and how much it has to control, especially while tripping. It's a normal thing to think about, you just took it in a real negative direction. And you shouldn't have to rely on someone else to get through the experience. Bad trips on lsd only happen when you do something really stupid, get arrested, or a freak tragedy; all the other shit is in your head.
     
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    your pulse is not any different ..
     
  7. guerillabedlam

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    Remember set and setting is key with psychedelics. Playing shitty music is a good way to lead to a bad trip.
     
  8. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    Knowledge is power. To know the molecule you are ingesting helps. If you know what LSD is, you know that there is zero cardiac danger. Zero. Thus that first "hey my heart sure is beating fast!" thought, instead of being met with "OHMYGODIMDYING" is met with "lol quiet you, i'm on LSD, don't you start that shit."
     
  9. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    What Writer said. That is why I'm so obsessive with the importance of knowing what a substance does physiologically and what to expect. LSD really is one of the safest and most benign substances known physiologically.
    There has never been any certain human deaths from LSD, and only one suspected death, but that guy took 3000-4000 "hits".

    I also hate getting stuck in negative thought loops, but if you know the substance and the facts regarding it, it helps a lot.
    Don't be fearful of doing it again, although I completely understand.
    Physically LSD, Psilocybin and Mescaline are very safe, safer then the coffee I'm drinking right now.
    Take some time to "digest" the experience. There may be other underlying emotional or psychological aspects to the trip that manifested or were interpreted physically.
    That is one thing I have noticed in my experience.
    :)
     
  10. ~*hempy ∞ empires*~

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    yah learn to control thoughts like this, a master of yourself is a master of your reality
     
  11. guerillabedlam

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    and don't play dubstep on psychedelics.

    :puke: Woooompp woooomppp wwaaa waaa waaa wommmmp

    Save that for like the ketamine and nitrous.
     
  12. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    i am so sorry you had a difficult experience, but it sounds like you are navigating well through the aftermath.

    Just speaking for my own experience:

    For me, just the act of taking a long-term psychedelic (e.g. LSD - i'll trip all day) has a stimulant effect on my physiology. This may be part of the drug effects, but it's mostly me. Mild elevation in heartrate and blood pressure. Mild increase in breathing and body temperature. So, i tend to chaulk these types of symptoms up to anxiety issues. This is a ripe time for me, as i can then change focus away from how my body feels and what my real fears and anxieties are really about. This is a good time to get some work done for me.

    In general, if i feel a pressure (it's not really a pain as i have heard heart pain is like having an excrutiatingly painful 5-ton weight pressing on your chest) in my chest or increase in heartrate, i presume that means the acid is working, chaulk it up to mild anxiety and try to focus on something else. Pains in the belly are usually anxiety and/or gas due to fasting . . . . .A change in position, focus, music (Shpongle!), location; eating a bit of fruit or nuts . . . often helps.

    i, personally, do not feel it is essential to take LSD with other people. But, i do think the intention/goal for the trip/experience is a big variable here as to whether or not other people can help or hinder the situation . . . .

    Thank you for sharing your experience. i hope that you will continue to work with psychedelics after a reasonable amount (only you can determine what this might be) of integration time.
     
  13. thedope

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    The majority of my acid trips have been alone. I used to like the fact that no one could tell I was tripping. In a way I could be more social than if I was tripping with someone else, as I might feel an obligation to pay most attention to my fellow tripper.
     
  14. toastacidblocks

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    Your slight increase in heartrate/ palpitations was most likely 90% due to the marijuana ingestion, same thing has happend to me on 3 hits, chillin on the couch amazed at the beauty and power LSD holds, then took one bong rip too many and my shit went straight bonkers lol, i thought i was dying then, "shhhhh your on LSD, its safe.." thus contributing the pot to my current anixety filled cardiac palpitations. Sometimes weed doesn;t agree with me on acid.... idunno
     
  15. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    The above is an excellent point - one i meant to mention, then forgot, . . . probably due to marijuana consumption . . . But, yes, taking a few hits of pot always increases the heart rate right away. i find it fades rather rapidly and in the long run, assuming anxiety is not an issue, i have been told by an M.D. (NOT a pot doc) that when i am stoned, i am slightly brachycardic (slow heart beat) and have a lower blood pressure than my baseline. But, again, right after taking the tokes and for about a half hour or so afterwards, these measures are always elevated.
     
  16. koptravis

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    Ya I think the weed had something to do with it also. Its a super high grade purple strain that I wa smoking. Just a mixture of everything got to be a little much and I let it get the best of me. I will continue to use lsd in about a month probably. I have been taken 2 to 3 hits about once per week so I'm jus goin to slow down for now. Any techniques for getting rid of repetitive thoughts. This tends to happen to me when something negative happens while I'm tripping and I have a hard time getting it off my mind. (I guess jus don't let the negative event happen in thr first place ha). Thanks for the replies guys
     
  17. Mr.Writer

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    look at them, they are entities

    they gesture some parcel of meaning to you

    look into that meaning, assess it. heartrate increasing while on lsd and pot? no problemo.

    knife protruding from chest on lsd and pot? hold on now, i'm tripping. touch knife . . . it's real. you bleeding. you dying. what should one do when knife is protruding from chest? pick up phone, 911.

    etc.

    you are just listening to your thoughts passively and eating any bullshit they feed you . . . be more awake, be more knowing of the nature of thoughts. it is active. thoughts will speak to you, but the listening to is your choice. unlearn the knee-jerk reaction. learn to pause in between getting a thought and listening to it. walk slowly in your mind. catch yourself having recognizable thought patterns; "Aha! Here i am falling into a thought loop again." then what? that's up to you, how you gonna handle that. my suggestion: dive into something else, occupy thought-factory with new stimuli.
     
  18. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    Isn't there something of value to completely dive head first into the thought loop? Even if it simply means the exhuastion of the thought loop forever? I only say this because while i agree that it's more useful to ignore the thoughts, the feelings that they produce in the body are almost impossible to turn away from. They desire to be completely embraced. Perhaps this method is just taking the long boat to china though?
     
  19. Mr.Writer

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    I don't think we're on the same page at all and are really talking about different things, but I'll answer you and maybe that will clarify my position.

    the very problem here is that people are diving into thought loops. there is no value in a manic, paranoid thought screaming at your awareness UR GONNA DIE because your heart is beating a little faster after taking 2 drugs that affect heart rate.

    Diving into a thought loop does not exhaust it, it fuels it. It can only continue if you dive into it.

    Yes, they do. And we naturally embrace them fully as well, so there is a difficulty in learning this kind of mental fortitude. But can thoughts have desires? No, they cannot. They only have behaviors. Only sentient beings have desires. Therefore the one desiring to embrace the thought is you, not your thoughts. So you must look to why you desire to embrace a thought which is taking you in painful circles and ruining your trip. This is nothing but honesty.
     
  20. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    Yea you're right
     
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