What are your thoughts on why Jews dont accept Jesus now?

I think it might have to do with pride now maybe not back then when his prosecution went on but years later on....

 

1. Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
2. Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
3. Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
4. Jewish belief is based on national revelation.

 

He claimed to be God, that was a big one.

 

they believe in Jesus just not as a messiah

 

Was that directed towards me?

 

NO Directed to JMT

 

"my penis just isn't the same as jesus's. i just can't accept him"

 

Righty-o.

There also isn't one conception of Jesus for all Jewish people (just as there isn't one for all self-identified Christians). For some, he was simply a radical rabbi who got twisted into this God-Man; som emight still hold to the traditional view that he was an Egyptian magician; some might agree with some secular scholars who say he did not even exist.

 

jews for jesus anyone?

 

jew was sitting at the ball game, ordered a hot dog.. he said "is this kosher?" the attendant said "in peanut heaven, everything is kosher" ..
2 days later the jew died and went to hell. He asked the devil, I did everything right, prayed, obey the sabbath, didnt eat pork.. what did I do wrong..

devil said "you didnt wear your glasses to the ball game"
jew said, "i dont understand"..

devil said "you was behind the dug out, the attendant was a skinhead and he just didnt give a shit"..


I just made that up.

 

:smilielol5:

 

A good friend of mine is married to a Jewish guy, who belongs to a family of what he says is "Messianic Jews", which are a (fairly big, according to Jason) group of Jews that do accept Jesus was the prophesized messiah.
There is also a verse in the NT that says basically that the jews of the day were told other than the truth which to this day is why many didn't/don't believe.

 

can you post torah to bible verse into how he didnt fulfill this?

 

They don't accept Jesus anymore, because they have become one with the times

they accept both card, and paypal now.

 

HA!! lol

 

This topic is thoroughly explored in David Klinghofer's Why the Jews Rejected Jesus, written in response to Mel Gibson. The Talmudic account of the trial of one Yeshu ha ' Notzri (Jesus of Nazarath) says he practiced magic and thereby "led and deceived" the people of Israel. The specific charge against him was "blasphemy", whichMark says was a result of Jesus' claims to be the messiah, the "Son of the Blessed" or "Son of God" . But Klinghofer notes that messianic claims or use of these titles alone would not have supported a charge of blasphemy, which specifically meant misappropriation of the holy unspeakable name of YHVH. Te fact that He was able to perform healings, exorcisms and specifically to raise people from the dead led to the conclusion that He had somehow discovered the true name of YHVH, and used it to perform these miracles. There was also an on-going dispute between Jesus and the Pharisees over his rejection of the so-called "oral Torah", the rabbinical elaboration of rules of the law based on interpretations of the written Law of Moses. The fact that the changes expected to be brought by the Messiah, especially liberation from Roman rule, never materialized was another reason Jews rejected Jesus. But the main issue the Jews had with Christianity was not with Jesus but with Paul, who took Judaism to the Gentiles, preached justification by faith alone, and accepted as Christians Gentiles who were uncircumcised and did not keep the Jewish dietary laws. Not only the non-Christian Jews, but also the Jewish Christian Ebionites and Nasoreans, who followed the Law, were at odds with the Paulist version of Christianity. James, the brother of Jesus was widely respecte, even among non-Christians, for his exemplary devotion to the Law. The Ebionites and Nasoreans, based largely in Jerusalem and following James, were essentially wiped out by the Romans after the Jewish rebellion in 70 A.D., leaving the Paulist Christians and their non-Christian Jewish opponents. The continuing refusal of Jews to accept the Christians and their Messiah led to increasing anti-Semitism from the now largely Gentile Christians, as manifested in the Gospels of Luke and John. Why do the Jews still reject Jesus? Because of a long tradition of preserving their national identity in the face of exile and persecution, including persecution by Christians, by clinging to their distinctive religion and the Torah as the source of their survival as a people.

 

Because they were expecting The Lion of The Tribe of Judah, a strong political and military messiah, not a sacrificial lamb.

 

I heard that Isaiah 53 was supposedly metaphor for Israel and not a person, so the prophecy used by Christians describing Jesus wasn't about Jesus at all.

 

The counter argument for that would be that, and one that flows from New Testament Scripture, the prohecies were just not understood. Jesus' discussion with those on the Road to Emmaus signifies this.

The Isaish 53 thing is also similar between Catholics and Protestants about who the Woman in Heaven is. We say that it is Mary and a signifier of the Church because Mary is a model for the Church, whereas Protestants see it as just the church.

Whether it is a good argument is up for debate.

 

OK, I'm willing to jump in here and show my stupidity. I just read Isaiah 53...and not only is there not a woman mentioned even; but I cannot imagine (and had no idea) that theologians would argue about what isn't even there. lol but I digress. But not really.
Where does Isaiah 53, or any particular scripture vary significantly from prostestant to catholic (common) bible, those just used commonly.

One of my favorite scriptures is Isaiah 54:17. I have found great (inner and outer) strength upon saying it aloud. yeah, I'm crazy.
"No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgement thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord."