The Electromagnetic Soul (Trip report 2c-i+nitrous+migraine!)

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  1. AtomStar

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    This is a long trip report, one of the most meaningful I've had to date.
    There are not a lot of negative reports of nitrous and the possible damage it may cause, so I feel this one is needed.
    I made some stupid decisions and used way too much nitrous one night 3 or 4 months ago, while tripping on 25mg of 2c-i.
    In the past I could get away with using a case or two of 10 chargers in a night, with only a slight dull headache to deal with.
    This time was wayyy different!:eek:
    I believe I depleted my b12 to dangerous levels but that is just speculation.

    Below are my accounts of that night.

    I awoke that day still asking questions about my dmt experience earlier that week. The usual beautiful fractal space was infected by a black insect that kept jumping through the veil into the center of my vision. It was as if this creature was trying to infect me. I believed it to be a sign I was getting sick, as my family had all gotten sick the week prior. I found it interesting how much dmt puts me in touch with my body. Not only did it perform a diagnostics on my system, I feel it boosted my immune system to help fight the cold. I didn’t end up getting sick for the rest of the week until...

    That weekend when I had the house to myself and decided to reflect on my experience with about 25mg of 2c-i. I chose 2c-i because I knew it would be a light minded, euphoric state so I would be insightful without having a stressful trip. This proved to be completely the opposite of what I got! (that tends to be the norm with me and psychs whenever I form expectations:p). I started the trip dosing then taking a shower. 30 minutes later I started noticing the effects coming on, but also noticed I was feeling quite “off” compared to previous 2c-i trips. I noticed my throat was getting raspy and I was starting to cough a bit. Also noticed that spaced out dissociation that comes with headcolds, I was certain that’s what was going on. (I believe it was the 2c-i that weakened my system enough for the bug to finally win). I got out of the shower and decided to take some nitrous to relax, and increase the effects while waiting for the long comeup.

    Taking nitrous was the first of some pretty stupid decisions on my part which led to an experience I’d never forget!

    After smoking some weed and finally coming up, I decide to take my dog for a walk to the park, spend some time there like many trips before and head home. Not much worth mentioning. I get back, hit the bong and the nitrous some more and put on music. I chilled for a bit just taking hits of nitrous and weed riding out the remainder of the effects. I always get a headache during the comedown on 2c-i and started to anticipate it. Realizing I hadn't drunk much water and that I still continued to hit nitrous it would be a pretty bad one. Then I remembered the cold that was setting in and started to get concerned that perhaps I was overheating. It was at this time I remembered to take some b12 as I had done a half dozen nitrous bulbs already.

    And then it started...

    Sharp pains shoot across my skull, this is much worse than I remember in the past. I look through the medicine cabinet to see what’s there; tylenol, advil, things that do fuck all to me and are probably doing more harm than good anyway! (I know I'm a hypocrite, right? At least if I’m going to damage my body I’d want SOME gain not just APAP). Best I could find was a couple t3's so I took them. Sat down in the hall with my dog waiting for the codeine to work on the headache decided to do some more nitrous, why I do not know as it just made things worse. The codeine starts working and it doesn't help just makes me fuzzy and nauseous on top of it all, I puke the remainder up. I figured I'll smoke some weed take one more thing of nitrous and try and go to sleep, unaware of the damage that was to be done.

    That final bulb of nitrous put me over the edge.

    Immediately, I felt thundering pains shooting across my head, "woaaah I need to lie down right now" I thought. Grabbed a water and got in bed, all of the sudden a weird circular blob of colors kept popping into the center of my vision and disappearing, this seemed to physically be there and not just my hallucinations. "Fuck I'm doing some real damage here wtf is this" My mind was telling me it was a spot in the center of my vision and I was having some type of intense migraine. All I could do was lay there literally motionless, I could not move because the stress it created was too much. ZAP! I feel a shock go across my face, "this isn't good."

    I start to become hyper-aware of my brain processes,

    I could actually visualize my nervous system receiving and directing energy and information place to place. This is incredible! I notice energy stemming from a main power source, which I am gathering from the space around me, earth and life itself. It is all the same power source, for each and every single one of us. Our "souls" as we call them, is actually in my experience, one soul flowing through all life and non-life on this planet.

    (This next paragraph is purely speculation on what I experienced.)

    If you consider our planet is covered in a giant electromagnetic field, and our bodies are about 60-70% water, which is a conductor of electricity, then it is reasonable to think we are conducting electromagnetic energy on a constant basis. Water is essential to all life, thus all life is conducting this energy simultaneously. This electromagnetic energy may be the very source of our brain function and life entirely. Similar to how a computer is plugged into the wall, we are plugged into the universe and are constantly downloading and uploading information to a main source. (heavy speculation: electricity is the collective consciousness, an advanced lifeform. We are part of this lifeform, and evolution is merely this lifeform's will attempting to manifest itself on a physically conscious level.)

    I was actually experiencing this through the migraine, it was more than hallucinations....I have never been as aware in my life as I was at that moment!

    I come too enough to realize I need some water! So I push myself enough to move my arm and take small sips of water. This really helped my system calm, although did very little for the migraine. The rest of the night consisted of drinking water and urinating frequently until I was able to sleep. The next day I had a small headache that persisted for days, but thankfully that spot or colour blob or whatever disappeared and hasn't been seen since.

    Doing some research has led me to believe due to my frequent use of nitrous at that time, in combination with the headcold that was onsetting, I depleted my b12 to dangerous levels and caused some serious damage. That’s why I feel the headache was much better in the morning once the b12 I took had time to circulate my system.
    I made some pretty stupid decisions, but am confident in saying 2c-i was not the culprit, but perhaps more of an assailant. I have used nitrous only twice since, spanning many many months apart. Both times I noticed a dull headache resembling the migraine though not nearly as intense. Needless to say I will be staying away from nitrous indefinitely, and think you should take careful consideration if using this gas. I feel nitrous does more damage than has been researched. For the record I was using ISI brand cream chargers.

    As strange as it may sound, this has been one of the most spiritually enlightening trips I have embarked on, and feel the sacrifice was worth the gain. I feel the damage done was not excessive and/or repairable. I have been living much healthier today, and will not touch nitrous again. With that said, I have gained many insights into life/death cycles and how we can even exist at all through this experience. I hope you can learn from my mistakes and be very careful when experimenting with nitrous in the future. If done improperly, serious adverse side effects including brain damage are possible!
     
  2. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    Fascinating report, but also a bit worrisome. Is there anyway you could maybe get yourself checked out? Don't have to mention the drugs - just mention the migraine with the mental effects. Maybe rule out a few things?

    i don't know, your report intrigued me by the insights but made me think dark thoughts about what happened to your brain. i'm no doctor but i don't think it was a b12 deficiency. My guess (NOT a doctor) would be a seizure (or series of micro seizures) and/or tissue damage/loss.

    Nitrous, other than being an extremely nasty and aggressive greenhouse gas, presents one single danger to users: hypoxia/asphyxia. When you take in a lot of nitrous, you are skimping on oxygen. Oxygen deficits can produce radical and profound changes in consciousness.

    Who knows? Not i. Get it checked out if you can. Otherwise, your plan to abstain from the nitrous is probably a good one. Looks like you might be able to keep busy integrating this one for awhile . . .
     
  3. Magical mystery tourguide

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    forgive me if you already stated this in your TR... but do you suffer from migraines frequently? maybe keep some opiates on hand in case this was too happen again.
     
  4. Mr.Writer

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    opiates don't help migraines afaik. Actually all the best migraine medicines are tryptamines.
     
  5. AtomStar

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    Hello Spicey Cat,
    Thank you for your concern it is probably wise for me to see a doctor, even if symptoms did not return.

    I am fairly confident in saying it was not a seizure as I did not lose muscle control, it was just too much strain on my head to move freely. I also made sure to inhale lots of oxygen with every breath of nitrous so I'm also ruling out oxygen deprivation. Also thought I should mention I am a daily pot smoker so I doubt that had much to do with it. I have inhaled 2 balloons of nitrous in the 4 months since this experience, and both times left me with a similar pain in my head as this night, on a smaller scale.

    It should be noted I used nitrous for months prior (not daily, but somewhat frequently) with no ill effects other than a dull headache when i used too much. Then all of the sudden it started to give me sharp thundering pains that night and ever since.

    My only explanations are either:
    A: I depleted my b12 to dangerous levels (looking up symptoms seem to match mine) or...
    B: ISI started filling their chargers with something harmful to deter humans from inhaling it, although we would still be eating said deterant in our whipcream so this doesn't seem likely.

    But you are right I will see a doctor and get a proper examination.

    Magical Mystery,
    Migraines are not a problem I have suffered from since I was 10 (I am now in my early 20's), nor did this experience cause a re-occurrence. I commonly get a slight headache while coming down from 2c-i, but never like this. I have not experienced any migraines since this experience and my vision is 20/20 still. I am certain the nitrous had most to do with it, although the headcold and 2c-i I'm sure lent a hand.

    Mr.Writer,
    I agree completely with your statement that tryptamines are good for headaches. Even with no headache, it feels like every time I take a form of DMT (aco, ho, n,n etc) it massages my brain!:D
     
  6. AtomStar

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    I thought I should add the symptoms I can remember which applied to me, this is taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12_deficiency.
    It should also be noted nitrous is said to deplete a user's b12 supply and supplements should be taken before doing the nitrous, not during or after!
    Finally I do believe a poor diet at the time, as well as an illness that was onsetting, my b12 may have been significantly lower than normal already.
    This is of course more speculation.
    I did not mention this, but after reading the symptoms again it rings a bell.
    This sounds like the thundering pains I experienced across my face, although it does not list face above.
    This may have occurred, I remember focusing on my breathing... deep breaths, in out, in out.
    These both sound similar to the facial pains I experienced, I would say it felt electrical if I tried to describe it.

    This also rings a bell, however I was really focused on my head so there may or may not have been body pains as well.
    Most definitely, however this next one really sells it.
    This sounds exactly like what I experienced!
    Would explain why the headache was significantly better in the morning once rest and the b12 supplement took effect.

    I know not all of the symptoms were experienced by me but that can be explained by difference in body and brain chemistry.
    Check the wiki link for the full list of symptoms.
    I will go see a doctor and see what a professional thinks.
     
  7. AtomStar

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    Had some new revelations based on this experience.
    This electromagnetic energy I experienced is stemming from our sun,
    which is part of a giant fractal atom we are living in.
    Our galaxies could be a series of atoms in a much larger world we are too small to perceive.
    "God" is one gigantic fractal atom, in which contains all existence; multiple universes, including our own.
    For all we know, our atoms contain entire universes themselves on a smaller fractal scale.
    This may or may not continue infinitely.

    Also Life is a miracle, creating new matter out of nothing.
    Our entire purpose could be as simple as creating new matter,
    eventually a supernova will gather all this created matter to be used again.
    This process could be occurring all throughout the multiverse, meaning lots of matter is being created!
    Creation - Destruction - Repeat

    What do you think?

    Edit: I keep adding more, sorry!
     
  8. Mr.Writer

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    business as usual
     
  9. AtomStar

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    Care to elaborate?
    I am quite interested in other opinions or possibilities!
     
  10. Xanonimity

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    I heard nitrous can be some damaging stuff.

    Interesting about the B-12, I should probably start taking it again and see how the migraines go.

    Tryptamines, dihydroergotamine, LSD, that stuff seems to work well for migraines, I don't know about opiates, they just make you feel good when you feel shitty so I think they are more worth taking when you already don't feel shitty, haha, but that's just me because I get such bad migraines I wouldn't want to waste opiates on a time when I feel so terrible and the pills would probably just make me throw up.
     

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