U.S. Soldiers Savagely Killed Afghan Civilians, Kept Body Parts As Trophies

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  1. SERPENTOR

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    Adam Winfield, 22, is one of five U.S. soldiers reponsible for premeditated murder of 3 Afghan civilians.

    A dozen U.S. soldiers are responsible for organizing a secret "kill team" which brutally murdered Afghan civilians at random and cut fingers and other body parts from corpses as trophies, proven by new documents released by the U.S. military.

    According to news reports, details in the charging documents released Wednesday shed new light on the cases against 12 soldiers who served a year in southern Afghanistan with a Stryker infantry brigade.

    The most serious accusations involve five soldiers -- Calvin Gibbs, Adam Winfield, Jeremy Mortlock, Andrew Holmes and Michael Wagnon II -- who are said to have murdered three Afghans earlier this year. According to reports, those men would likely be charged with premeditated murder, but in the corrupt American court system, may face additional charges relating to obstructing justice, possessing human body parts and retaining mortar rounds for personal use.

    Authorities allege that Gibbs kept finger bones, leg bones and a tooth from the Afghan corpses, while Wagnon is said to have kept a skull. The remaining seven soldiers are charged with participating in the cover-up, which included smoking hashish stolen from the civilians, taking photos of the corpses and lying to investigators about their deaths.

    Winfield's father Christopher has slammed the accusations (as any coward would) against his 22-year-old son, telling the Associated Press he tried nearly half a dozen times to pass on urgent messages to the Army, received via e-mail and Internet chats, from his son earlier this year. According to the elder Winfield, his son had been made aware of -- but did not witness or participate in -- the murder of the first civilian, and had been physically threatened by Gibbs to keep quiet.

    On Feb. 14, he told his parents what happened in a lengthy Internet chat: Members of his unit on patrol had murdered "some innocent guy about my age just farming." He said he did not witness the killing.

    But, he wrote, those involved told him about it and urged him to "get one of my own."

    He said that virtually everyone in the platoon was aware of what was going on, but no one seemed to object. Why would they? Murder is their game.

    "If you talk to anyone on my behalf, I have proof that they are planning another one in the form of an AK-47 they want to drop on a guy."

    Media outlets have equated the alleged crimes to abuses committed by U.S. troops at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison in 2004. "This is the kind of thing that hurts us enormously," foreign policy expert Michael O'Hanlon told CBS. "It will have a disproportionate effect, just like Abu Ghraib did ... just like the Koran burning would in Florida."

    A military grand jury will consider the charges later this month. McClatchy has a helpful breakdown of the charges here
     
  2. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    These kind of atrocities have occurred in every war since the advent of war; why should today be any different :confused:

    It brings out the worst in people :(


    Hotwater
     
  3. odon

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    It gives mentally deficient sick fucks, opportunities.
     
  4. thedope

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    You mean like world governments.
     
  5. odon

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    Nope.
     
  6. Spicey Cat

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    War is evil and brings only the worst out in the human soul.
     
  7. thedope

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    Nope that is not what you intended to say or nope world governments are not sick fucks taking opportunities by making war.
     
  8. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Soldiers with psychopathic personalities have always given war a poor rep :(


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  9. Chapter13

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    soldiers are people who decide to take a monthly wage for killing people.... it should hardly be a surprise when they also do it for fun
     
  10. odon

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    Both.


    I would not say always.
    Once upon a time that behaviour was admired even valued.
     
  11. thedope

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    Do you think war is a sane way to further our agendas?
     
  12. odon

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    Mmm, no. I suspect not many governments, engaged in a few wars like ours are, would say they are furthering their agendas (it never seems to be our agenda, mmm) ... But sometimes I agree with the stated aims (peace freedom etc) of a war. It's never the best policy, though, either way.
     
  13. Meliai

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    That is a sad story. For the civilians and the soldiers both...

    When young men are essentially trained to morph from human beings into killing machines, what else could be expected to happen?

    Such is the cost of war.

    Name one war that was fought for honorable reasons rather than greed..I cannot think of one. WWII is the only one that comes to mind, I guess...preventing a psychopathic nazi from taking over the world is a pretty good reason to go to war.
     
  14. odon

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    I'll name two...
    The Iraq and Afghan wars.
    Before you tell me how stupid I am...plenty of people think WW1/2 wasn't very honourable, either. But that's another thread.
     
  15. Meliai

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    So...why do you believe the Iraq and Afghan wars to be honorable?
     
  16. odon

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    preventing a psychopathic nazi from taking over the world is a pretty good reason to go to war.
     
  17. JackFlash

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    "psychopathic nazi?" Saddam????? The Talaban???? Taking over the world?????

    I must have more input to compute this data.....

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    pinky and the brain..
     
  19. Meliai

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    I really don't think Saddam or the Taliban were bent on world domination. They didn't have the resources for all that. Try again.
     
  20. odon

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    He deffinitly was psychopathic and his uncle (his gaurdian growing up) was a Nazi sympathiser. Saddam and his Ba'ath party where the equivilant of Hitler and the Nazis...given the chance Saddam would have become leader of the Arab world and gone on to form a New Arab world order. Boundless territorial expansion would have prevailed.

    Evidence:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvFrSPfndhE"]YouTube - Saddam and the Third Reich - pt 11
    http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/saddam_en.html

    ...and obviously there would have to like minded allies too, just like Hitler.

    To be fair, I've read world domination wasn't an aspiration of Hitler...
    He wanted to remove every Jew from the planet.
    That was his main objective.
    That was the main objective of Saddam Hussein too.

    Shucks, I'm not going to get away with this one am I?...:rolleyes:

    Ok, It (my earlier response) was a tad flippant response, I'll be serious now...
    Ok, I think honourable is a little extreme, I'd go with the right thing to do...and has provided a slow but positive transformation of the region.
     
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