Fate/destiny

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Psychedelic.Flower, Sep 9, 2010.

  1. Psychedelic.Flower

    Psychedelic.Flower Member

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    Isnt it odd how peoples lives merge together even for an instant?
    i think its crazy how many people we encounter whether its a glance at the mall or a wave in the car or just a random conversation with a stranger. Or meeting someone simply because you were i the right place at the right time.
    its beautiful, really.
     
  2. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    Yes, truly. The complexity of life is astounding, and the way we humans go about ours is simultaneously trivial and exceptional.
     
  3. PeacefulIntentions

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    oh yeah and :grouphug:
     
  5. Fingermouse

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    The other day I was lost somewhere unfamiliar, so I asked this guy for directions and we ended up talking for about an hour and had stuff in common and it was just a nice exchange and really interesting.

    A lot depends on us, though, what's in our minds. About a year ago I wouldn't have been somewhere unfamiliar, and I certainly wouldn't have started talking to some random person and trusted them enough to let them show me the city, so that wouldn't have happened. Infact I would't have met a lot of the wonderful people I know now due to fear and the wrong mindset.

    You can also attract people who will be a negative influence by having obvious weaknesses, just as you can attract positive people by being strong.

    It doesn't always work that way though. Sometimes you get idiots no matter what you do, but it's heavily outweighed by the good encounters
     
  6. raz5

    raz5 زینب

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  7. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    I think of all the lost productive relationships that would have occurred because of people not liking what they see on the surface at first sight and avoiding people for that reason alone.

    I'm not trying to be negative. I do it myself sometimes. So much emphasis is placed on appearance, whether its looking for a lover, interviewing for a job, profiling by law enforcement, etc.

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  8. Fingermouse

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    This happens the other way around too. I've had people trying to be friends with me and strike up conversation just because I'm young and female, and there's no connection there at all. Of course a lot are just guys trying it on, but even when I make it clear I'm not interested they still persist. I wish more people were just genuinely interested in meand who I am regardless of age/gender/looks etc, you know.

    I guess we're all guilty of judging a little on looks from time to time.
     
  9. Plant_Head

    Plant_Head Banned

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    Synchronicity is one word for it. Although I think the word and even just the theory behind that word doesn't capture the whole essence of the universal fabric. It's interesting that synchronicity can almost be explained by a phenomenon that occurs in Quantum mechanics known as Quantum entanglement. Two particles emerge from a two separate waves occurring at almost exactly the same time and size. I've also heard this linked to the phenomenon of similar artistic/aesthetic advances being made around the same time at entirely different locations of the globe before there was worldwide communication.

    Indeed it is beautiful, but it is not just on the side of love. It will throw you major challenges, and life changing events. Even when it is on the side of love, love is cold, most people are cold, and it very often fails. A lot like what Shaggie said.
     
  10. rollingalong

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    Freud said it best

    ''its nice to meet you''
     
  11. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    Yup, at your service.
     
  12. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    You’re right when I think about how many women I’ve met and we both immediately knew that we were meant to be together; but for various reasons we never got together “we were on different flights at the airport” “we were ships passing in the night” or “we were jogging past each other” (ok that was probably lust) :D but you know what I mean and each time I was left with an empty feeling in the pit of my stomach :(

    Hotwater
     
  13. TipsyGypsy

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    I have never experienced that in my life. For me, I don't think that I would be able to say from the first instant that I was meant to be with someone. I don't really believe in fate or destiny. Things just are.
     
  14. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    Correct. I think it's all a little silly

    If you meet your 'soul mate', it becomes fate. But if this said person cheats on you and breaks your heart, dare anybody tell you it was destiny? No, they call them a bastard.

    It's just a glorification of the better aspects of a persons life.
     
  15. hotwater

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    Then there’s a level of insight, perception, and intuition, that you’re lacking which I hope you eventually manage to find [​IMG]



    Hotwater
     
  16. TipsyGypsy

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    I would much rather continue to get to know people, before I make any judgement as to whether they are the 'one for me'. Otherwise, I will put my energy into something that never was and never will be.

    To me, I could create an idea of someone in my mind, and when I see someone similar - it's fate. But, it isn't; it's coincidence.
     
  17. i_was_in_shroom_land

    i_was_in_shroom_land Shroomier than you!

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    i wouldn't call it fate or destiny..
     
  18. Plant_Head

    Plant_Head Banned

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    ^ I second Shroomland. I wouldn't call it anything. Although I think TipsyGypsy's outlook on it is a bit ignorant, or rather maybe blind to coincidence and extraordinary circumstance. I would lean more in that direction with my beliefs, than to think it is part of a plan. The coinciding incidents and moments of great relation really just are. A natural phenomenon. That isn't to deny the divinity of it, and the divinity of life in general. But the idea that an event exists in the future as some part of a plan, suggests that there would have to be a God that wrote everything down as some kind of story. Don't get me wrong, life is and becomes a great storyline. But perhaps it is the Buddhism in what I've learned talking, but everything seems to happen at once. In other words, No future, only what is to become now, and no past. To view co-incidences (as I like to call them) as fate or destiny could mislead one into developing a conscience about their actions, and develop a sense of guilt of missing out. That is akin to not believing in second chances, or a whole change in direction you are capable of bringing your life, and entirely blinding yourself to the rest of the storyline. That is definitely to say you have a good chunk of control over your fate/destiny, if you so wish to call it.
     
  19. Plant_Head

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    That is a very logical view Tipsy, and a deception that one must weed their mind of. However, from my inferences, that wouldn't account for a slight fraction of meaning linked events. That's why I say synchronicity doesn't satisfy as even a metaphysical answer, because the various forms in which "things"(anything) are linked are limitless. If one thinks it is a deception of ego's self interest then I suggest one should hone the skill of recognizing this fabric take place outside the parameters of your own experience. It really takes an empty mind to witness everything unfold as it does, and even the most mastered in this don't see the full picture. I am Christian in the sense that we could never understand everything about everything.
     
  20. TipsyGypsy

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    It's not ignorant or blind at all. Everyone has opinions and none of them are ignorant from what I have seen. I don't believe that I will meet someone because it is 'destined' to happen, and that belief is not harming anyone. Just like the belief that fate brought people together isn't going to harm anyone. Having an 'empty mind' doesn't not take away coincidence and it also cannot prove that fate exists. Believing it does is just another opinion.

    People are all different. Some fall for others very quickly, others don't, I can't see myself meeting someone tomorrow and immediately saying he is the one for me and that fate has brought us together. Nor will I say that it brought people to a bar, where I met someone.

    If I want to get to know someone before I say they are the 'one', I will. So I won't be 'weeding my mind' just yet.
     
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