If you're atheist why brother so much with G-d?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by jmt, Sep 7, 2010.

  1. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    Yeah am sure the Atheist alliance in Mecca is running strong.
     
  2. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    ok christians evil, athiest good.


    got it. :)

    btw just remember their isn't much technically ability to being atheist....I mean what the fck else is there to the belief " I dont believe in G-d"

    Its pretty in general thing to be atheist.....I mean like this atheist once tolled me " I only believe in things I see" how else can you get deep about that??? you pretty much eliminate any other rules or beliefs to your belief. What you guys got mass on Fridays or some shit?
     
  3. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    Why do you spell God with no O jmt?

    God loves O's! He practically lives on them.
     
  4. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    Religion is much, much more than just 'believing god'. The fact that there are Atheist religions should have signified this to you. And I don't have to demonize religion, it's already done this itself.

    Furthermore, the majority of people in the world aren't racist, or killers, but we hear about them don't we?

    That someone isn't using what they know doesn't mean they lack the capacity.

    This is true, but religion is a cause for action.
    There are no Atheist doctrines. No Atheist commandments. No belief system.

    Atheism is derived from logic.
     
  5. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    I dnt know.....orison made me do it...
     
  6. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    yet theirs a whole sub forum dedicate to this....
     
  7. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    Answering original question as asked, oh and btw, i no longer completely identify as atheist, but i remember, . . . here goes:

    Because our culture/society (as are almost all) is obsessed and saturated with Judeo-Christian references. It is constantly in our faces. There is no escaping it. It is incredibly ubiquitous. Just open your eyes/ears and really look/listen . . . There are references to God, the Bible and Judeo-Christian values everywhere.

    It's like asking the one (thinking) woman in the room filled with a huge number of men why she might bother so much with gender issues . . . the one African-American in a room filled with Europeans why she is bothered so much with race issues . . .

    i actually think most atheists are very quiet and it is the rare (and young) one that will actively try to convert a believer away from faith. Atheists tend to know a tad about history and are aware that their/our position is tenuous at best even in a so-called "free" society. Watch the preachers on television, really watch. How long until you hear one say that free thinkers are dangerous? Not long for us (my husband and myself). Today they want to burn books (e.g. Quoran), tomorrow it can easily be people . . . this is the way of religions . . . i shudder to think across cultures and down through time how many have been killed, tortured or deprived of potential all in the name of "God." Atheists are aware of this, . . . combine this with a general common sense/belief in what they can see, . . . along with the death awareness that we all share AND no belief in an afterlife and you can see how i am right. They tend to stay quiet as a group.

    It is the situation of the quiet minority who occasionally speaks up and gets accused of being uppity. . . .
     
  8. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    This is exactly why I don't respect religious belief.

    [generalization] You expect everyone to be as stupid as you, and wont accept logic and reason.

    You clearly made a false statement and wont acknowledge it.

    Because Atheism acts to denounce religion, and religion has all those things.

    You could have thought of that but you would rather defend your ideas than try to understand why people disagree with you.
     
  9. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    No.

    There isn't much criteria for being atheist (I THINK that's what you meant when you where talking about various totally unrelated shit... L2ENGLISH) which is exactly why you're off your rocker acting like there's some coordinated movement of atheists hatin' on yo gawd.

    Also, what the FUCK was that about mecca? I have no religious affiliation(Not atheist, either), and live in usa, what are you on about?

    *edit* if you took that atheist telling you that he only believed what he saw to mean he couldn't discuss anything deep, you're the perfect example of the shallow, bridled christian. Deep does NOT imply any relation to the church, and frequently implies the opposite.
     
  10. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    He's gone to Allah, and besides he's risn, not orison
     
  11. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    lol and you cant repost what post i made that was false. What? did I say all Athiest have an obsession with converting those to not believing in a god or did I type in bold and underlined SOME.

    like I said from the first post and this makes you more right then religious people trying to convert you?


    am replying aint that being open to your ideas and trying to understand Atheist?
     
  12. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    It helps to be christian to really get the full impact of death metal.
    I mean if you don't believe in god then you don't believe in hell or satan, then whats dark and evil about it? 's just cartoons musics...:p

    Death metal is mostly lost on Atheists , right jmt? :confused:

    ZW
     
  13. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    lol
     
  14. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    my bad but he does do the G-d thing you just havent seen him.
     
  15. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    This is a direct quote, you can return to page one and look yourself if you want.

    "Also its funny how atheist only acknowledge the Christian god but not the Quran God...."



    Yes.
    In fact, thats exactly what it makes us. You have every right to assert silly beliefs for yourself, but to demand others live by your irrational beliefs is unreasonable.

    We are only trying to help you match the universe that is inside your head, with the one outside of it.

    I don't understand this sentence.
     
  16. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    wheres the post where I state that this thread was about atheist shitting on god? I recall it being about have an obsession not hate.

    you where talking about how athiest not only goes against Christianity but islam and is open in discussion in the USA but not like that in place like Mecca. So I brought up the Mecca to show that some athiest aren't as open to discussion of athiesism in other places like the USA where they would surely get some physical responses....
     
  17. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    I have seen it, but with him it's an A, ie. Gad.

    Please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gad_(deity


    You must remember, Orison tempts fate just by breathing.
     
  18. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    I said it from the first post some, sorry that I didnt say "some atheist only acknowledge the Christian god but not the Quran God"
    key word : some.

    I never generalized Atheist, maybe in the example above you stated but I fail to put the word "some."
     
  19. flyboy270

    flyboy270 Member

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    The reason us Atheists are sometimes vocal is because religion is being rammed down our throats and laws are being passed an enforced that are based solely on religion.

    For example, at this moment a women in Iran is sitting on death row. Her crime? She committed adultery, although technically she didn't, because her husband was already dead when she slept with the other man. In my mind a victimless crime either way, but she is to be stoned to death because she committed a crime against Islam.

    Christians are not immune to this repulsive idiocy either. Even if the Spanish inquisition and the dark ages are not contemporary enough for you, look at Uganda, where there are people trying to make being gay an offense punishable by death! After all, god hates us gays!

    And there are plenty of fundamentalist fuckwits in the US to. For example, sodomy laws were on the books and enforced up until the 90s when the surprime court ruled them unconstitutional. And of course, most arguments against same sex marriage are religiously based.

    If people just worshiped in private and minded their own business I wouldn't care, to each their own. I have no problem with peaceful tolerant religious people. But when your imaginary friend starts telling me how to live my life, I'm going to speak out!
     
  20. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    The thread title generalizes atheists.

    /thread

    *edit* gotta love when unfunny people who can't internet try to be funny and internet.
     

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