Porn making guys feel entitled to things?

((from JonsonB))This is a little cunter productive... Let me explain.

If you want girl to see in you " THE ONE " that she dreamed about, prince in shine armor, man that makes her dreams come true, you need to give her best pleasure possible. Many girls dont like anal and bj*s, rolepalying, dirty talk, becouse " society in global " ( their parents, media.. ) told her that if she behave like that she will be labeld as " slutt "...

So manny girls repress their inner freakiness some where down in some deeper part of mind. And thez potray inocent and lady attitude.

I yet didnt founded girl that dont have that " slutty " side, some have it really kinky, others little, but there are allways " social conndicions " that you, as a MAN, need to talk with her. And help her to pass that shit behinde while shes enjoying you and her.

So one of ways to be sure that she will see you as " the ONE " is for you to give her pleasure as nobody ever did. So it usualy meens to fuck her in ass if nobody done that, or something like that. What ever is her boundrie, you too need to cross it... BEcouse thatn, you as a MAN, will be sourse off that new pleasurble thing in her life.

But no force or arogance with this approuch. Allways prepare her, while enjoying sex, just slipp finger couple of times for her to see it.

Little by little, and work your way for her pleasure.

Mens have boundries, Girls have enjoyyment of Mens boundries.

If you know how to take her, she will follow.
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thats only true to a point, some girls do like it sure, some dont, but the point isnt the ones that DO like it, its the ones that dont, those ones are the topic hear, they are pressured more to it less theyre bf leaves them for not giving out. like i said in my other post these men are more the impressionable/stupid/etc. but for those guys in those catagorys whos partners dont like anal or oral or w/e, they can feel pressured into because the boyfriends wants, feels entitled even, and it might lead to a break up if she doesnt give him what he wants, but sex and love are a duet, it takes 2 to agree.

 

^^^ My thoughts exactly.

Women today have no problem whatsoever letting you know what you're not entitled to.

 

First, please don’t be insulted by answer. Second, in my time I turned little princesses to „ Whore „ for me. And I never in my life used any aggression or pleasure. So what is the problem? First you need to know that generally girls don’t know what do they really want, but they react on emotions that you bring her.



Next, problem is that Guy doesn’t know how to communicate so that she knows that all that is for her satisfaction and enjoyment of deeper self. He is probably funny ass dude that don’t have manhood, domination, leadership and so on. So when you know how to explain her that it’s not pressure, it’s something that islovely and sexy.Its pleasure at it best. To know what to do, you need to know that girls like sex almost more than man. When you figure that out, „ pressure „ will sound bizarre to you like it does to me. Why would she feel pressure to do something that she will love as fuck? It doesn’t make sense. But you need to tell her that it would look in your eyes that she is „ slutty „ it only means that you too are decided to enjoy in yourself deeper. Next, never brag hommies about your girls, for girls, reputation can make em not to enjoy pleasure...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTLonc2YeuQ"]YouTube- Dennis Leary - Hard To Be A Guy

Peace Out,
Rev J

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpEy-LYo3vg"]YouTube- Bill Hicks, Goatboy!

I'm not sure which line I find funnier "Tie me to your hedboard and throw your legs over my shoulders so I can wear you like a feedbag," or "It's like a wisp of cotton candy framing a paper cut."

Peace Out,
Rev J

 

Ironically Leary and Hicks had a falling out before Bill died because Leary was ripping him off big time and Leary ripped him off even worse after Bill died. Leary was then callous enough to name his album, "There's no cure for cancer" which came out shortly after Bill's death, alluding to Leary's strange, sick sense of proverbial justice.

Looks like he really is an asshole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs"]YouTube- Denis Leary - Asshole (Dirty Version)

 

Personally, I think Leary has a funnier style; but Hicks seems to be right to me.

I like when he said that he quit smoking to see if Denis Leary would =P

Also, Rescue Me sucks now, so Denis Leary has become inconsequential to me.

 

That's funny, I never heard that.

Bill was made to be a comedian, his delivery and presence were unmatched.

I could never get into Leary after discovering what he had named that album. That's a straight up, grade A asshole move in my opinion.

Dennis Leary smoked too...hopefully karma is a bitch.

Anyways, we should probably either get back on topic or leave.

 

I have Platonic friends. They are free to enjoy whatever they enjoy with no stigma coming from me.

 

1: i meant no offence in that post.

2: girls dont know what they want? i think youll find they are very capable in thinking of what they do and dont want, and that it isnt a matter of being aggression.

by your post i can see that you really arnt on track with this. "girls like sex ~almost~ more than man" and similar comments show that you see all women as same. desire and how much some one likes sex is totally unrelated to gender. there are many many women who enjoy sex much more than men, and there are men of the same, there are men who dont enjoy sex very much and same for women. it is not in any regard to gender.

you didnt understand my last post, and you fail to see that women are not inanimate objects, they all have diffrent likes and desires, as any human or living being does.

 

i'm sorry but, when i read this i :rofl: i damn near pissed in my pants, from laughing sooooooo long and hard!
thank you for the gut busting laugh fest. i feel so much better now!

to answer your question though.
there have always been, some people who can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy.
i agree with the rev 100%!
the only thing porn has ever entitled me to, is a cure from my horniness by wacking off. (all prase be to god, for giving us horny humans porn!) arty:


porn has never, ever, motivated, me to go out and grab someone off the street, and chain them up in my basement to be my sex slave!
the vast, vast, vast, majorty of people know better, then to pull some kind of stupid shit like that!
the small group of people who pull that kind of shit, are just not right in the head. they need to removed from society! right now, at this point in human history; the best place for them is a mental hospitial.
maybe, sometime in the future, we will learn of a humane way to handely this people.
untill we find that way, or ways to do that; we have no choice but, to lock them up for life in a mental ward or jail.

 

i think everyone has those "dark" sides to them you cant blame porn i think most people are scared to tell there significant other what they really want to do mostly because of rejection and judgment

 

I think porn has introduced men to things they would not have otherwise known about, and then expect them.

 

You have an odd sense of humor?

Good for you? Besides, I never said that it would.

I really hate the twisting of words that occurs in a thread like this. I ask if anyone feels that porn seems to make guys feel entitle to things, and suddenly, I'm blaming porn for physically making you rape someone? No, that's not what I'm saying. Maybe someone else said that, but not me.

 

I just don't believe that people come up with said "sides" all by themselves. But I agree with the second part of your point, fear of rejection and judgment is a part of the problem on both ends, what they really want, and what they really don't want.

 

Seems you're in need of a sexpert to weigh in. First, let's lay out the basic facts:

There's all manner of differences of sexual preferences out there. Sure, straight, gay, bisexual, but also polyamorous, kinky, all manner of fetishes of a truly staggering variety, as well as overall levels of sexual desire. Those preferences aren't binary, yes/no questions, but are broad spectrums ranging from 'holy fuck yes nothing else but this ever' all the way to 'oh dear god this is the worst trauma of my life', though when properly stimulated and uninhibited, for most people there's much less on the 'turn-off' list than you might think.

Anyway, these preferences vary both over time and depending on the situation, the partner, what you've been going through emotionally, comfort levels, etc. Now, one thing to note is that there doesn't appear to be any meaningful way for someone to control what those preferences are, and the more you deny those preferences, the worse the psychological outcomes tend to become. In essence, you are what you are, and there's really not much you can do about it but get what enjoyment you can out of it. And that's totally cool! Even if you didn't want to have sex at all, or only wanted the most loving, caring, gentle sex possible. That's good! That's healthy!

So the thing that porn does to influence your sexual desires, primarily, is it creates an environment where you can experiment with what you actually like in sex in a totally emotionally and physically safe fantasy environment. Now, many of the things that turn us on in that context of total safety could never be safe enough to be a turn-on in real life (like being part of an anonymous anal creampie gangbang), but for less extreme, couple-oriented activities like BJs, swallowing, anal, etc., having seen that porn might make you feel comfortable enough with your own desires to share it with your partner. Hence the impression that porn is making guys expect more extreme sex acts.

But let's step back for a second. Porn is NOT a monolithic thing. EVERY fetish is very accessible in this day and age, and every sexuality is quite well-represented, though you probably wouldn't notice that if you're looking on the free porn sites (that have to appeal to the most popular demographic to succeed). If you haven't seen what you like in porn, look harder, or start digging around through romance novels and sex blogs if you need better characterization than low-budget porn actors and scripts are capable of delivering. I promise you will find it. Regardless, we know that porn only influences us if it's already stimulating. In running a porn business, I've seen hours and hours of realistic forced rape scenes, and it's at best a struggle to get off watching it, where I have to focus on the mechanical aspect and ignore the situation. I've seen a fair amount of gay porn, but I can't even get hard watching it most of the time (trannies and really effeminate men being the occasional exception, if I'm hornier than usual). You might have seen 2 girls 1 cup. Did it make you want to have sex with shit all over you? Not unless that was something you ALREADY wanted (I think it's gross, but who cares what I think if that's what YOU like?).

So let's talk about expectations. First, it's totally reasonable that for someone with a moderate sex drive, if you're going to be in a monogamous relationship, your partner damn well needs to deliver on what you need to be sexually satisfied. And towards that, there is a reasonable expectation of being Good, Giving, and Game (GGG). That means making the effort to do your best to fulfill their needs, to care about their sexual pleasure, and to be as flexible as you can reasonably manage about meeting their sexual needs. Now, if something is a huge turnoff and you actively hate it, then obviously no one should make you do it, and it's not reasonable to expect it of you. But at the same time, it's not unreasonable for them to find someone who can meet their sexual needs. I mean, if you're a closeted gay man and you've got a live-in girlfriend, is it unreasonable for him to leave you for someone who can meet his sexual needs? The same applies for guys who really like blowjobs or being dominant. Sure, that's actually most guys, if you can get them to open up enough about their sexuality to admit it, but it's certainly not everyone, not by a long shot.

It's also important to note that because your sexual desires are not chosen by you, they're not derived from your politics or world-view. When you're properly turned on, that whole portion of your brain doesn't even work right, so don't worry about the ideological ramifications of your sexual activities and proclivities, and don't confuse your boyfriend's sexual preferences for what he thinks about women. It's just not relevant. Instead, really think carefully about what you do and don't want in bed. Explore your fantasies. Give your boyfriend whatever you feel comfortable enough to try, and get him to do the same for you. Try to fulfill each other's needs, and express those needs to each other openly. And don't let your let your sexual politics get in the way of your sexual pleasure! Happens a lot these days... You might find that giving your boyfriend pleasure is a big turn-on, even if it might seem degrading in an intellectual sense. But regardless, you need to talk to your partner about these things in a non-judgemental way if you want to make any progress, and avoid being left for a more exciting sex partner. Statistically, yes, most women do actually want to be sexually submissive (in the right context), and most men want to be dominant. How much of that is our many generations of patriarchal rule (only moderately mitigated in the last 40 years), and how much is evolutionary forces shaping desires over hundreds of thousands of years, I couldn't even guess. But remember: that's only the majority, not the rule, so it would be a gross mistake to apply it across the board. And there is also a confirmation bias, in that humans are very good at seeing exactly what we're looking for, while ignoring the rest. The actual range of human sexuality is VAST. So to you pimpass motherfuckers: if you carry yourself like an alpha male, you will primarily attract women who want alpha males. Doesn't mean that's what all women want. But go for it, and enjoy! Lord knows I do.

Anyway, even if upon careful self-examination you really don't want to give head, fuck dominant men, or have anything but tender vanilla sex a few times a month (or even less) with a guy who rarely even mentions sex, that's still just fine. You're not in the majority, and there is no point in history where you would have been, but there's still NOTHING wrong with your preferences. What you need is to find someone that meets your needs. And you will be disappointed from time to time when a guy leaves you for someone he's better suited to, but just try to remember that it doesn't have to reflect poorly on either of you. You're just not a match is all. Nothing wrong with you for wanting what you want, and there's nothing wrong with him wanting someone he can tie up and fuck in the ass. Just remember: it's not a question of morality, ethics, or ideology, not in the slightest. What it is, in a very important way, is WHO THEY ARE. And who YOU are. So be proud and explore yourself!

And the most important part to achieving that goal? Being more up front about your sexuality, doing so in a non-judgemental way, and really communicating with your partners and potential partners, whatever sexual interests you have, particularly with stuff that's outside the mainstream. Nothing else will help your sex life more than that one thing.

Good luck to you and all the rest of you fuckers!

 

Maybe kind of the opposite for me? My Lady is...full-figured? Rubenesque? Aww, to hell with the euphemisms, she's fat (It ain't over till SHE sings) ...and since I have been with her, I have found myself developing a greater appreciation for BBW porn.

 

Entitled? Nah, but I sure as hell still try

 

Porn is overratted