So, my buddy and I are trying 1.5g each of this kratom this afternoon. >>>> I know 1.5 is a fairly light dose, but we ended up only getting a 3g bag somehow... Which says to take 2gs and to take the last gram if you want a more intense experience. We are also planning to smoke a good amount of grass to kick start things during the come-up... The chill guy who was working at the headshop said to mix it with orange juice and gulp it down. Is this the best way to take kratom? Or would tea work better? tl;dr: What's the most effective way to use kratom? Regardless, I'll be sure to post a trip report for you folks sometime later tonight or tomorrow.
Probably go with the oj (I used milk when I did it) and definitely smoke weed with the dose you are doing. Stuff tastes nasty but good high especially with weed.
That's the kind that I tried. I found 1.5g to be a little light (with no opiate tolerance at all) so I had all 3g. I liked it, but I'll never buy it at a shop again. I think I paid $25 for 3g and I've seen it online for like $10 an ounce. That was one expensive fuckin cup of tea. I mixed it with about 16oz hot water and it didn't dissolve very well so I can't imagine it would mix well in OJ either. It's going to be like drinking clumpy green mud either way and it kinda tastes like a bitter mix of wheatgrass/alfalfa/dirt so just hold your nose and try to gulp it down as smoothly and quickly as possible lol The only thing that sucked was that it only lasted about an hour. I still had the gross taste in my mouth by the time it wore off.
lol That's unfortunate... We paid $15, so $5/g... still a bit on the expensive side, considering that's almost a 20 bag. He should be coming around in an hour more or less, I'm pretty excited, as this is my first time using an opiate for recreational use. But to my understanding it's more like a stimulant at lower doses? Either way I'm sure the bud will blast us off because it's some dank shit. :sifone:
The comeup is kind of stimulant like and it settles into a opiate like high for me. When I used it with weed I pretty much was just glued to the chair the whole time like an opiate and then even somewhat of a "nod" when I lied down. I was using extracts though, not sure if this is the same and I forget my dose. Its fairly addicting for how crappy it tastes, that type of high is not my favorite but I enjoyed it while it was around.
While I have just begun to start wondering about this Kratom stuff myself I never paid attention thinking it was some kind of fake weed or salvia (i will not touch salvia-d again, I love to trip, but not like that). While I know its not an opiate does it mimic an opiate buzz? What is it closest to? Codeine? Hydrocodone? I am looking for all the info/buzz/trip report on this as I may give it a whirl. So Mr. Clean, please let me know your thoughts on it as this will be your first time. Peace out, and I hope you have a good time with the stuff holmes.
Tastes horrible. Yes, works well in OJ, but if you take big doses, like i used to (i don't do opiate stimulators anymore,) it can quickly RUIN plain orange juice for you. i had better success getting huge (like at least 00) gel caps and packing them tight, then taking large amounts. i was fairly hardcore, but since it's kratom, i'd sincerely recommend taking it all (unless it's like 30x or something) to get the full, profound effects. Starts as stimulation and efficiency, finishes like an opiate, including bad effects if you took too much - sweating, barfing, etc. It synergyzes BEAUTIFULLY with marijuana Peace & Love, Spicey Cat Purrr!
I can't grasp why you would do this gross crap instead of just snorting a roxi or popping some hydro's if your a casual user or something like that. Pure euphoria, without all the gross shit and you can then smoke your buds and feel amazing. Is it because you've never tried opiates before? I've done pretty much every opiate and I've never heard or seen this stuff...what is it exactly?
Some people might prefer "gross" natural "crap" that comes from the earth rather than vile chemical sludge pumped with fillers and other synthetic bullshit that junkies don't seem to mind. Then again, I fuckin love ingesting concoctions of alpha-numeric RC trailmixes so who am I to judge
It is ground up leaves of the plant Mitragyna speciosa. Last i heard there were red and green veined varieties. People try this for the following (& perhaps other) reasons: 1.) It is legal and does not require a prescription. 2.) It is a powderized plant (as opposed to a pharm/synthesized drug) 3.) It offers milder effects than traditional opiates and also offers the stimulation phase, which for me lasted a couple hours. 4.) Not into insulffation/snorting as a drug delivery pathway - prefer oral/smoking. You don't think prescription/synthesized opiates are gross? Grind one up and eat the powder. Take too much and get junkie effects like sweating, barfing, constipation, etc. . . .
LOL! i've always called RC's "alphabet soup" when speaking with my husband, but i love your term much better!
What are ABC RC's? Is it like those 2CBI-MEO Research Chem stuff? Sorry if I sound tarded but I am not at all familiar with these designer Research Chems. As I said with the Kratom I am just now started to get interested in these semi legal buzzes and have very little knowledge reguarding said things. When I was younger the legal high market sucked major donkey dick. I'm beginning to think this is not the case anymore.
Actually you're wrong man, maybe you just weren't into them then but the RC market was actually a lot more accessible and easier to find stuff when we were younger. There has been a few new things that have came out recently that are popular but most of that 2ce, 2ci, stuff has been around for awhile.
Yeap, it was a lot easier to get ahold of when you could source it in the U.S. LEGIT vendor info/hookups were bountiful and free for all. Scams were almost unheard of. It was cheaper too, IIRC. And no sweating your balls off wating for it to clear customs. The good old days... my 2c supplier just took a shit so I'm going to be hurting for phens once my existing stash dries up
Yea maybe that was the case. All I remember was those fake nugs, red rock dragon blood opium incense, and other silly stuff. Anyone remeber trying to smoke banana peels, mixing some kinda gum with toothpaste and smoking, and trying to get drunk off nutmeg? I had an old book that mentioned other crazy stuff like smoking spider webs, eating rotten green peppers, smoking tea, eating old wheat germ, chewing scotch broom, and putting an aspirin in a cig. The book is called The Drug Dilema by Sidney Cohen circa 1969.
Hahaha, luckily the only bunk shit I ever fell victim to were those nasty Herbal Ecstacy cigs with the butterfly on the pack (anyone?). I honestly don't even remember what they claimed to do but it must have been pretty tempting for me to want to try it. Those things were gross and just gave me a headache. I was hesitant about trying Spice the first time I saw it because some of the ingredients were similar, but now we all know there is an extra unlabelled "active" ingredient thrown into that mix. Everything else I've tried has fortunately been psychoactive.