We're Fucked

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  1. skamikaze

    skamikaze Coffee Addict

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    We've all seen and obsessively referenced Minority Report, Steven Spielberg's adaptation of Philip K. Dick's dystopian future, where the public is tracked everywhere they go, from shopping malls to work to mass transit to the privacy of their own homes. The technology is here. I've seen it myself. It's seen me, too, and scanned my irises.
    Biometrics R&D firm Global Rainmakers Inc. (GRI) announced today that it is rolling out its iris scanning technology to create what it calls "the most secure city in the world." In a partnership with Leon -- one of the largest cities in Mexico, with a population of more than a million -- GRI will fill the city with eye-scanners. That will help law enforcement revolutionize the way we live -- not to mention marketers.
    "In the future, whether it's entering your home, opening your car, entering your workspace, getting a pharmacy prescription refilled, or having your medical records pulled up, everything will come off that unique key that is your iris," says Jeff Carter, CDO of Global Rainmakers. Before coming to GRI, Carter headed a think tank partnership between Bank of America, Harvard, and MIT. "Every person, place, and thing on this planet will be connected [to the iris system] within the next 10 years," he says.
    Leon is the first step. To implement the system, the city is creating a database of irises. Criminals will automatically be enrolled, their irises scanned once convicted. Law-abiding citizens will have the option to opt-in.
    When these residents catch a train or bus, or take out money from an ATM, they will scan their irises, rather than swiping a metro or bank card. Police officers will monitor these scans and track the movements of watch-listed individuals. "Fraud, which is a $50 billion problem, will be completely eradicated," says Carter. Not even the "dead eyeballs" seen in Minority Report could trick the system, he says. "If you've been convicted of a crime, in essence, this will act as a digital scarlet letter. If you're a known shoplifter, for example, you won't be able to go into a store without being flagged. For others, boarding a plane will be impossible."

    GRI's scanning devices are currently shipping to the city, where integration will begin with law enforcement facilities, security check-points, police stations, and detention areas. This first phase will cost less than $5 million. Phase II, which will roll out in the next three years, will focus more on commercial enterprises. Scanners will be placed in mass transit, medical centers and banks, among other public and private locations.
    The devices range from large-scale scanners like the Hbox (shown in the airport-security prototype above), which can snap up to 50 people per minute in motion, to smaller scanners like the EyeSwipe and EyeSwipe Mini, which can capture the irises of between 15 to 30 people per minute.

    I tested these devices at GRI's R&D facilities in New York City last week. It took less than a second for my irises to be scanned and registered in the company's database. Every time I went through the scanners after that--even when running through (because everybody runs, right, Tom Cruise?) my eyes were scanned and identified correctly. (You can see me getting scanned on the Hbox in the video below. "Welcome Austin," the robotic voice chimes.)

    For such a Big Brother-esque system, why would any law-abiding resident ever volunteer to scan their irises into a public database, and sacrifice their privacy? GRI hopes that the immediate value the system creates will alleviate any concern. "There's a lot of convenience to this--you'll have nothing to carry except your eyes," says Carter, claiming that consumers will no longer be carded at bars and liquor stores. And he has a warning for those thinking of opting out: "When you get masses of people opting-in, opting out does not help. Opting out actually puts more of a flag on you than just being part of the system. We believe everyone will opt-in."
    This vision of the future eerily matches Minority Report, and GRI knows it. "Minority Report is one possible outcome," admits Carter. "I don't think that's our company's aim, but I think what we're going to see is an enviroment well beyond what you see in that movie--minus the precogs, of course."
    When I asked Carter whether he felt the film was intended as a dystopian view of the future of privacy, he pointed out that much of our private life is already tracked by telecoms and banks, not to mention Facebook. "The banks already know more about what we do in our daily life--they know what we eat, where we go, what we purchase--our deepest secrets," he says. "We're not talking about anything different here--just a system that's good for all of us."
    One potential benefit? Carter believes the system could be used to intermittently scan truck drivers on highways to make sure they haven't been on the road for too long.

    GRI also predicts that iris scanners will help marketers. "Digital signage," for example, could enable advertisers to track behavior and emotion. "In ten years, you may just have one sensor that is literally able to identify hundreds of people in motion at a distance and determine their geo-location and their intent--you'll be able to see how many eyeballs looked at a billboard," Carter says. "You can start to track from the point a person is browsing on Google and finds something they want to purchase, to the point they cross the threshold in a Target or Walmart and actually make the purchase. You start to see the entire life cycle of marketing."
    So will we live the future under iris scanners and constant Big Brother monitoring? According to Carter, eye scanners will soon be so cost-effective--between $50-$100 each--that in the not-too-distant future we'll have "billions and billions of sensors" across the globe.
    Goodbye 2010. Hello 1984.
     
  2. Heavenly Bohemian

    Heavenly Bohemian Member

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    I dont like this at all I get "BAD VIBES" reading this!
     
  3. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    it dont really matter.. electronic devices will suffer when the sun quakes, in our lifetime...
     
  5. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    For real, I will not opt into this bullshit.

    But fingerprint scanning software is already cheap. Why hasn't this already happened with finger prints?
     
  6. lifer02

    lifer02 Stoned Ape

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    yea the fuck right man ill revolt before i let them do that shit to me
     
  7. DazedGypsy

    DazedGypsy fire

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    here's original link w/pics for those interested

    http://www.fastcompany.com/1683302/...secure-city-in-the-world-welcomes-big-brother

    edit;;oops someone already posted my bad


    i will not hesitate to head out into the woods to never return. there are several scenarios that will cause me to do it
    or revolt out of necessity but that's a whole nother story

    yes true
     
  8. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Sun quakes happen all the time. What does that have to do with electronics?
     
  9. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Its irrelevant in the end it comes down to who's going to pay for it and who is really going to give a fuck

    Lets take one little slice of control: The war on drugs, if you really wanted to make a dent get every employer to drug test new applicants an random testing during their employment.

    The technology is there, it happens in some industries with some jobs, but to do it for everyone the resources arent there and no ones really going to care if a dishwasher turns up to work stoned

    And even if it could be done, the big picture effect would be an increase in the number of unemployed, a decrease in consumer spending.

    If anything we are going the other way, life getting too complex for any one thing to control

    And as for machines becoming our big brother, Moore's Law would block that.
     
  10. DazedGypsy

    DazedGypsy fire

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    cmes will affect our grids and networks
     
  11. marksup123

    marksup123 I'm a girl!

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    lol. this is all supposed to start in mexico?

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    anyone who believes this is going to happen in 10 years is a dumbass. maybe 100. MAYBE.

    everyone on this forum will be dead before it happens though. carry on.
     
  12. Mother's Love

    Mother's Love Generalist

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    as long as they let opt outs go about their lonely primitive existence without interference. i'll take the 'inconvenience' thank you very much.
    at least we know we're getting fucked. most sheeple will wake up one day and go " what the hell is this dick doing in my ass?"
     
  13. spiralout23

    spiralout23 Member

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    Holy fucking shit!!! I can see that happening very quickly, we really are all FUCKED if this happens!!!!!
     
  14. Mother's Love

    Mother's Love Generalist

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    we're all fucked anyway, buy some lube and enjoy the ride. and by lube i mean beans, bandaids and bullets,(and livestock and property and a guard dog and cigs for barter and, and, and) and by ride i mean, well, exactly that actually. ought to be quite a ride.

    doesnt matter when it happens, it will happen. all signs point to that eventuality. shit will cometh, and not everyone will be prepared. most will go along with it, especially "kids these days" who want to be 'in' on technology, and never read 1984.
    doubleplusungood if i do say so myself.
     
  15. DazedGypsy

    DazedGypsy fire

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    i'll probably just go out to the woods when shit goes down
    who's with me? :D we can take bud and stare at the trees and stars til a bear eats us
     
  16. marksup123

    marksup123 I'm a girl!

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    yeah right... the bear presents a perfect opportunity to make bear bikinis and be cool like cavewomen!
     
  17. DazedGypsy

    DazedGypsy fire

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    let's do it :cool::)
     
  18. Mother's Love

    Mother's Love Generalist

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    just remember that bear meat has to be thoroughly cooked like pork (or else you could get trichinosis)

    I don't have "hobbies," I'm developing a robust post-apocalyptic skill set.
     
  19. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    It could gain some popular support if it is promoted as a police/internal security tool to help in keeping tabs on criminals who have been released back into the herd. If enough reverse security is done via the early release program and the newly freed convicts do what the statistics predict it may become useful to employ the news media's ability to nurture and channel our collective tendency to be more pliable to a government's "need" to abridge the freedoms of an easy target (rapists, murderers, robbers, etc.) so that "everybody" can feel a little bit safer... but once the foot is in the door and we've compile a database of retinal scans submitted by convicted felons as a condition for early release... or release at all... we can move on the scanning awaiting trial after felony indictment... in case they decide to jump bail, of course...

    Then perhaps we can use it as a general database- maybe as a condition for using government run health care... expedience in matching you to your prescription profile. Soldiers might be compelled to add to the database as a condition to receiving veteran's benefits- or young men registering for selective service. Anyone receiving any kind of government assistance might find their benefits are contingent on submitting to mandatory retinal scanning. We certainly don't need any fraud beyond the taxpayer funded variety which is furnished by the government.

    Initially, scanners would be deployed with border personnel, then perhaps at banks, government offices, hospitals... I see a general population whose consensus can be mass manipulated by featuring an abundance of news stories about any number of hot button topics... be able to track via online databases that are refreshed with scanner data to track a child molester who is living in their midst. Big retailers might opt to invest to alert them when a convicted thief enter their stores...

    I can see store windows featuring interesting displays of a nature that draws people to stare at them... they could be used to place scanners so any individual can be tracked... perhaps even installing scanners in television screens and computer monitors- or any other appliance or device that people are conditioned to stare at.

    Initially it's the deepest pockets of the government who might invest in the technology because it is most likely the government that would find such technology so useful.

    Perhaps after they have effectively financed the technology through its formative "new" stages, the costs might be brought down enough to make it economically viable for the private sector.
     
  20. DazedGypsy

    DazedGypsy fire

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    haha:) if i had a child i would
    but i'm not going to bother
     
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