DPT vs Iraq

Glad you got this one going again. I missed it the first time around. And now this opportunity ... thinking about several very positive statements in the past by Mr.Writer. I was checking it out on erowid and noticed a fair #bad experiences and then I looked at 4AcO-DMT and saw about no negatives. Hmmm. I guess I'll take the conservative road.

Back to the post, yes, brother, no doubt, I respect the crazy fucking whatever it is that says, wtf, I'll take a high dose of strong psychedelic here in mother-fucking Iraq. Remember, man, I wrote you and counseled laying really low in your last month in the military. I could see Sgt. Asshole giving you a ration of shit and then saying, "Cpl. Code, you seem to be behaving strangely ..." LOL Lucky he didn't walk in when your neck was swelling!

Glad you made it through that trip and the trip surrounding it. Welcome home.

 

Heh, and yet most of my 4aces experiences have been extremely difficult, more than DPT. I said this in one of my TRs, with 4aces, think psychological, not psychedelic. It's definitely got the merciless mushroom teacher/accuser/judge/executioner vibe going, while DPT is like . . . not even a human experience to "have".

Both of these tryptamines are worth trying though. 4aces is more forgiving overall, just start low with like 20mg. DPT I would start a little higher, 100-200mg, DPT is harder on lower doses, 4aces is harder on higher doses. IME.

 

"Aw man why are we shooting these guys man, they're just guys?" lol

Give some to everybody else at your base. No joke. Fucking do it.

 

Everything that has positives has just about as many potential negitives. Give or take at least.

 

. . . not even a human experience to "have".

I've been thinking about that for several days - something like going beyond experience - to be. The inverted post (for some reason) accelerated these thoughts or glimmers of consciousness.

Re DPT and 4AcO, here's my reality: I've become so bleeding (started to say) conservative, but it's really cautious. I think a few hundred mcgs would probably cure what ails me.

Headed to the mountains in a few weeks. I was thinking 30mg 4AcO about 3 days into the trek.

 

That would be a perfect dose for trekking in the mountains, you would have an insanely beautiful time and would learn a lot. I love both these tryptamines very much <3

 

I think Im finally about to make an order of 4aco! Finally!!!! I have waited waaay too long.

 

Man this thread is making me wanna take another 4aces high dose. 55mg or something . . . but I won't do that to my brain this one kicks my asssssss

 

Everyone reacts different. I think if you fight DPT then you will get killed. If you fight aco you will just be confused as fuck. I had bad trips on both of these chems, the only two bad trips I have ever had.

With DPT if you relax, it can be beautiful. Because you still retain some brain function even at the high doses (not at all actually, but you do... can't be explained.). With aco you will lose all ability to think rational thoughts and you might get scared.

When I came off of that 45mg dose of aco, like when I realized I wasn't dying and got my thought processes back I was SO fucking happy and the visuals were SO fucking beautiful.

Its all relative though. They are fun, just remember to be relaxed and that people use this because its fun! +set and setting...

 

this thread is making me want some 4acodmt as well. i almost placed an order a few weeks ago, but backed out. i have only sampled 25 mg which was pretty mild. i'd like to try ~33 mg

 

man, 4 acer was just pure light and feeling for me. No thoughts whatsoever, I was just a beam of light, traveling in a infinite upwards motion. DPT is another story though....

 

what does of 4acodmt did you take, prone?

 

A few but that one was about 30mg oral. My first and strongest aco trip. I dosed up to 60 and wasn't able to get same effects

 

Maybe you do. Can't say I agree with you on that one.

 

What was the highest dose you have taken? I think most of these drugs can be taken to a point where you lose it. When I did it there was to much I'm sensitive though I guess.

I guess I mean it kinda different though after reading it. I dunno how to describe it, you can think. But confusion sets in deeply with complicated thoughts. At least for me though.

Obviously we all react different. My wife also got confused on it. Though, we could still talk and stuff, we just had some confusing times and thoughts we couldn't iron out.

 

nothing has made me act as "crazy" as 4aces. yelling shit, talking to myself, laughing at everything, just looking like a total nutjob, unaware of who is around me and what is going on around me, but lucid enough on some level to try and have conversations with my trip, etc . . . big big mindfuck