I know it's a benzo, not an opiate. just...whatever:hide: So I was rx'ed clonazepam because I discovered it marvelously relieved my chronic post-vasectomy pain, and the doctor has been liberal with rx'ing them since he's been rx'ing me oxy for two years and does not believe I'm a drug seeker. He basically ok'ed me to take 1 mg in the morn and 1 mg of kpin at night every day. However I do not want to taking this drug every day. I'm forgetful, lazy, etc. So I've been taking it everyday, and my tolerance went up so I started taking a lil more every day, and now I'm taking 3-4 mg throughout the day. It's been only about a month maybe two that I've been taking it every day. Anyway I want the fuck off this shit. I notice wd's when my body needs it's next fix. I know I have to taper off gradually. Basically my plan now is to take a small dose when the wd's come on. should I start by waiting till the wd's start and pop a 1 mg pill, then after a while pop half a pill when the wd's start? any suggestions? anyone experienced this? I know this is a pretty light drug regimen I've been on compared to some others so I would very grateful for any advice
I've never experienced a withdrawl from a benzo, but medically they can lead to a stroke and other dangerous conditions. Try tapering down your dose. You can break the pills in half if they're scored, or just buy a pill splitter at any pharmacy. Try half a pill in the AM and half in the PM. If you feel anxiety or restless in between, give yourself another half during lunch. Klonopin has a moderately long half-life, but if you're tolerance has increased rapidly, you may have a natural disposition towards addition to this chemical. Hope this helps!!! Good luck to you!
Thanks. I think you're right about me having a natural tendency to develop addiction to it. Oxy was never an issue like that
No way man I just think it's because benzos are the most addictive substance. I have a few friends that have gone a little off the way with oxy but benzos can grab anyone. but me being a 19 yr old kid with a shit job that I can do fucked up on whatever I could afford to wean myself off xanax with alcohol. the last time I got a shipment I took xanax for about 2 weeks in increasing ludicrous thrice daily doses then said, hey ,fuck it cold turkey, then the desire for beer took over and I had to go alcoholic to cope with the missing benzo but I got off and then quit drinking. but I felt as if I put down a beer can for a second id go insane or have to take xanax but just had to go 7 days without a single one and you're good you're free.
The thing about benzos is the length of time more than the doesage, so at just two months it shouldn't be hard. Also kpin has a long half life which makes coming off it easier. I've been taking it for years, just 1 or maybe 2 mg a day and I would say I could be off it in a month. If you are taking it 3 or 4 times a day you aren't going into wd during 24 hrs. I would take 1 mg morning and one evening. Cut out the day doses. Then from there cut one of those doses in half, then the other. Don't pop one just because you are having a craving during the day. Just wait till that night dose. It is totally doable because of the long half life. When you feel comfortable with half dose 2 x's a day cut the a.m. or p.m. If you feel anxious take quarter dose at p.m. (if that;s the one you cut.) The weaning from kpin is much easier than xanax. The above taper would not go so well on xanax becuase the half life is so short. All benzo wd is not pleasant because of rebound anxiety and a sense of unease. Also, don't go cold turkey! wd from benzo, dangerous!
http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzsched.htm#s6 This chart has you switching to valium eventually. You should try and talk to your doc to see if that's a possibility. Also, the Ashton Manuel has lots of great information about benzo's, particularly withdrawals. I would recommend reading it. Good luck.
thanks to everyone. yeah I don't think it'll be too bad. and I did notice that even though I cut dosage, I experienced wd's at a much later time than I thought. that would be the half life thing. thx so much
goin good so far. i took 1 mg once in the morning once at night yesterday, and the night dose made me pretty high so I'm thinkin my tolerance has lowered. i took half a mil this morning and I'm thinkin maybe just a quarter mil tonight. if the shit is already back to making me loopy i figure i can drop that low. so do kpin wd's typically start around 24 hrs after last dose? also I notice a moderate, shallow general headache and fatigue. are those typical wd symptoms? if so they're nothin compared to the wd's I get coming off 250mg oxy spread out over just 5 days or so
No dont wait untill the withdrawals, theyre bad. Just start tapering off now, or when you want to quit... if you take 4mg, tomorrow take 3.5 for 2 days, then 3 for 2 days then 2.5 etc etc.. I used to take klonopin, and ativan.. I did it recreationally like 6mgs was the most ive ever took, and if i stopped i would get cold and shake its not fun, i just tapered off .5mgs every 2 days or day untill i stopped.. i will never fuck with that shit again, just thinking about benzos makes me wanna throw up, its not good for your brain man.. and you cant really ask, when do withdrawals start.. you will KNOW when they start, cause you just feel a bunch of anxiety. just start tapering when you can man, stop worrying
thanks for the the advice. that half life thing is tricky. I'm used to weaning off the occasional oxy binge with minimal descomfort, but this is ttly different. I'm about to take half a mil, so that should mean no wd's through tomorrow. I'm planning on rollin at a rave tomorrow night. I'm expecting to have lower energy levels cause of the taper, but no biggie I even like to just watch ppl dance when I roll. ps I agree I hate this shit. my mind is mush, i don't exercise, takes longer to get out sentences, and very forgetful. I'm not like that at all, oxy doesn't even make me forget shit.
youll be fine man, 2-4mg of klonopin is not really even alot to get seizure withdrawals or anything.. ive taken 6 and the next day the worst i had was feeling cold/sick anxiety.. ive heard people only having siezures when they daily take like 8mg or something then stop and theyre mind starts racing and go into siezures... 4 is pretty small man, so like i said seriously reduce .5 from whenever you keep doing it and youll be normal.
That shit is powerful....keep weening yourself off and you should be fine. I used to take it for insomnia and did not ween myself off when I stopped taking it and learned the hard way. Good luck!
c3nuke, 4 mg every day for a long time is not a small dose. With benzo addiction the length of time is more important in the severity of the wd than amount. Every body is different and if the OP is experiencing symptoms he should be careful. The one thing he has in his favor is the length of time, which I believe he said 1-2 months. SHOULD be easy to taper, but like I said, everyone is different.
thanks, I took my morning dose last saturday of half a mil and went to the rave planning on taking the night dose there. I researched that kpin and molly isn't unsafe but the k pin can limit the effects of the molly. I popped 100 mg pure molly and things were great but I did notice the kpin in my system hold it down a bit. So I asked my buddy for another 100 mg molly and that was definitely the sweet spot and turned the night transcendent and I danced till dawn. I've been enjoying acid-like closed eye vision since then because it was such a high experience as to come with an afterglow. I saw the earth with golden continents and beyond it, the stars with perfect clarity as if I had a telescope in my head. Possible wd's today though. I think it's just the interrupted sleep but took half a mil and feel better but, that doesn't necessarily mean it was wd's.
