Could you please stop fucking with the Christians like some little Bill Maher clones? You aren't going to change their mind any more than they're gonna change yours. And it's anoying to see the same fucking "How can you believe in this silly nonsense" question. I bet a lot of you believe silly shit too. For example... I bet a few of you have a girlfriend who you love very much who is a total tramp. Getting some bar strangers/pot dealers sloppy seconds and kissing her on the lips is just as silly as the man in the sky and his stories. It's not like you actually really know the nature of reality or life and death any better then these folks. Death is a black pit of nothingness for eternity. yeah, it takes some real fucking insight to crack out that gem. You're not better than them just because you believe nothing. And for the record I'm an agnostic.
There is a forum for whining, right? Go find it, sir. If you don't like it in this forum - fuck off. Simple really.
Death is not a place, or a person. Its actually the termination of the biological functions that define an organism. Sort of like, when you build something with legos, its born. You get tired of it, its dead. You break it apart, it decomposed.Then you put the pieces back in the box with the rest of the legos. Anyways, you obviously have the wrong idea about all this.... My physical body, or mental capacity isn't "better" than anyone elses....I have no reason to believe we aren't all as capable as Einstein or De Vinci, Its just that my brain isnt poisoned with terrible ideas and satisfied by fanciful explanations. THEY are separating themselves from US, not the other way around.
I'm a Christian and don't mind being fucked with occasionally as long as I can fuck back. That's what makes life worth living. If you want to see real bare knuckle, no holds barred, two fisted brutality, check out the Christian Sanctuary. The violence is over the top! I come over here from time to time for relief, because it's so placid, if kinda dull. But for the sake of starting something, I have to say that I find the case for God compelling, even though I'd be hard put to say what God is, and acknowledge that a perfectly valid case could be made for the opposite conclusion. I'm completely sold on human evolution, and the four horsemen make sense to me, but I think about the amazing fact of my existence and look at the people in the WalMart checkout line, and I'm hooked. I think, therefore I am, and that's amazing. At least I think so. Gotta run, but I'll be back to answer questions.
i think the reason atheists and agnostics fuck with christians is that so many christians [not necessarily in this forum, but in the real world] are constantly fucking with us, telling us how to live, denying our choices, pointing fingers and bellowing our doom we should turn the other cheek, but that's their schtick, no?
I always hear that line, but I so rarly see it happening. Usually it's just the type of liberal douche who think bill Maher is the funniest guy to ever exist. 90% of the time I see atheists being the ones starting the whole thing.
Well running with your analogy SS which I think is terrible, people tend to dump a tramp like that if they have any common sense.
I come from a state in which "Christians" (aka Republicans aka Pharisees) run the legislature and are into things like trying to post the Ten Commandments on public property, trying to get prayer into the schools, trying to ban the teaching of evolution,denouncing "Sodomites" , and condemning Dawkins for coming into our fair state to make a speech. I say "trying", because so far they've been unsuccessful, and I don't think they mind because the main idea is to go on record for God. They don't make as much of a deal about atheists as they do gays, since there seem to be so few of the former, and so many more of the latter (at least that's the perception). But unfortunately there's a significant chunk of voters who respond to this. So far, it seems to me, atheists have been pretty low profile--probably because they have no power.
really? some people only see what they want to, i suppose . . . i didn't think maher was a "liberal douche"; i'd always thought him to be more of an old-fashioned [pre-teabagger] libertarian, much funnier than dennis miller, less funny than that dead guy whose name i can never remember [looked it up - BILL HICKS] but what does this "liberal douche" know; i have not watched television in years . . .
That's rather more polite... ....thanks for ruining my chance of getting another green ball today. Anyhoo, you don't have much right to speak for all the people within this forum. Who do you think you are ? God?
Alright man I dig that. I'm all about seperation of church and state and I think flipping shit over something like that is compleatly reasonable. Please don't misunderstand me. What bothers me isn't this specific example. What really lights a fire under my ass (midget with a match) is any group of people who believe one thing that so reasonably person can claim to know beyond a shadow of a doubt and using it to shit on another group of people who they consider either less intelligent because of their beliefs, or diwnright 'evil'. Christians are just as guilty of this as atheists, honestly.. even MORE so. But what brought this rant about is how fucking Trendy it has become to be a loud obnoxious stuck up atheist. It's really just the 'hipness' of the scene that pisses me off.
I don't mean to try to speak for everybody or towards everybody. I'm ranting to a broad spectrum of people about something only a percentage of them are actually guilty of. It's just when atheists bitch at christians it seems more Mean to me. Like some kid is all excited about christmas becasue santa clause is coming. There always has to be that one asshole kid who says "There is no santa you stupid little shit" Let the kid have santa! It makes me sad.. lol.
The're are more of them than there are of us. They have pretty much shaped the world we live in. So what if a few tell them they are wrong etc etc... We are constantly told we are and the consensus is we are and we are told we are. Christians are not special people. Why treat them as if they were? I really don't get why you are so angry about this.
The animals have their christmas in the summer time; at least they did in the seventies. Made for a pro-atheist argument then. The weather is "bAD" (?????)
It's just I suppose that it pissed me off when someone thinks that not believing in anything makes them automatacally more intelligent or worthy a person than someone who does. Yes, there are good intellictual reasons for not digging religion. But all it really takes to be an atheist is to be jaded. Or just the whole rebel without a cause thing coming from anger towards your upbringings. I know I'm making huge generalizations, but I just want to be clear that this is not a blanket statement against atheists. Just a certian breed of them.