I'm about 3.5 hours in. So I'm trying to figure out if I dosed again right now, would it extend my trip another say 5 hours? Or would i have issues with tolerance? I feel like i should know this and have read it somewhere, but can't seem to locate it. EDIT: Nevermind, found what I was looking for. There are definitely diminished effects the day afterward and stringing together trips doesn't really work. Knew I read that shit somewhere. (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-123970.html)
This is soooooooooo lucid. I'm so incredibly...sober. More sober than I am when I'm sober. That's how lucid this stuff is. Quite fun.
I found all the 2c-xs to be like that, a very turbulent, psychedelic, wild come up followed by a very anti-climactic peak defined by it's high element of sobriety. Only 2c-e actually continues to deliver what the comeup promises, and even then, I dunno
In general, with any drug, redosing is not a good route to go. Exceptions are very short lasting ones like pot, coke, k, etc, but for big psychedelics . . . pick a dose and take it. taking 50% x at T=0 and 50%x at T=3 will always be inferior to just taking x at T=0
Anti-climatic is quite accurate. As hard as I try not to I always end up comparing things to acid and this is not acid. Fun, but lacking. I feel like typically when I plan to trip, I just plan to trip, with 2ci i feel like i needed to have some other activity as well (like a concert or rave or something). It was there and I definitely felt a real stimulation throughout the experience, but overall I'd say the experience was subtle. The visuals were light, the mindfuck was nonexistent, the body high was there, but nothing crazy. I felt like I was tripping with training wheels. Tripping with training wheels can be useful though. I think this may be a good substance for a first timer, which is what I had originally intended to use it for. One of my friends was supposed to pop his tripping cherry, but under unfortunate circumstances he was not able to trip. I'm not even sure I feel like a higher dose would add to this substance. Possibly, but I'm skeptical. I have tried 2ce, which had a much more satisfying mind fuck to it and visual play. If you're looking for a deep introspective trip this is not the substance for you. I guess it's possible for someone to have some revelations on 2ci, but I didn't feel any more likely to have them as to when I was stone cold sober. However, if you're looking for something fun and playful that you wont lose your shit on in public, 2ci could fit the bill. I'm thinking that 2ci and a future bassnectar concert may be going hand in hand.
That's weird redosing 2C-E had amazing effects... I remember 2C-E binges lasting 30 hours from first dose to sleep, but that was only after we had gotten comfortable tripping 3 or 4 times a week, we just had to go all out when we got the second supply... after that binge I was just done and never got it again... still don't want that horrendous fuckin caustic chemical...
although i haven't done 2ci, 25mg 2ce got me to a beautiful, euphoric lucid dreaming sort of state, hanging onto a subwoofer at a concert for dear life. Fucking enjoy. I'd love to try this compound soon. As soon as I turn around my last couple hundred bucks I'm gonna do a big rc order and some 2c* should be included. maybe 2cp though...that chem taught em the universe and was part of what inspired me start writing my crazy cracked out jesusbook.
There is some overlap but in general phenethylamines have a more emotional character to me and tryptamine have a more internal self examination type trip. That's not to say like shrooms can't be a moving emotional experience or mescaline can't cause self examination, there is certainly overlap. I actually find 2ci to have more of a "mindfuck" than 2ce in my limited use of both. 2ce is more like a visual fireworks show where 2ci I'm often contemplating my relationships with people I'm around or people I'm thinking about. Sometimes I think people get caught up in trying to compare certain drugs to other drugs, like you mentioned LSD and you kind of miss out on the strenghts of that drug occasionally, I know I'm guilty of this sometimes. But yes you should try 2ci in a different enviornment its very adaptable.
That's pretty interesting guerrillabedlam. Guess it goes to show how differently these chemicals can affect different individuals. Writer, out of curiosity, what kind of doses have you tried 2ci at? I got zero nausea this time where as when i snorted 5 mg i got some light nausea from the drip. Next time i do this chem im stepping up my dosage. Im trying to figure out how big of a jump to make.
possibly my definition of mind fuck is slightly different than yours, 2ce is without a doubt more visual, but because it's so visual I just find myself kind of paying attention to the visual distortion and closed eye visuals instead of having any insight or revelations on it. I also get slightly sedated from it so I just kind of relax into the experience, it's almost more just for the sake of novelty. Like you said 2ci has this amazing lucidity that is close to on par with mdma 'more sober than sober' and I just find it easy to really think about and pay attention to alot of my interpersonal relationships and ideas I kind of neglect when going through day to day routine.
Maybe so. I found 2ci to be slightly similar to mdma, but my mdma experience was a loooootttt stronger. Ate maybe a lil more than 300 mg of molly for my first roll a couple weeks ago. I think the TR is in the mdma-x forum. I mean don't get me wrong I felt like 2ce was pretty visual, and although I say it has a mindfuck it wasn't that strong of one (as compared to high dose lsd or shrooms or 4-aco), but it was stronger than 2ci was for me. I think 2ci has more in store for me which is why i'm hoping a stronger dose will take me a little further. Somewhere between 30 and 40 mgs is what I'll go with when I revisit it. I guess when I say it didn't really have a mindfuck I'm referring to how clear my thoughts were. I had no trouble whatsoever conversing with people, thinking, or comprehending. I was able to read and write coherently. With LSD I have had some significant problems doing these sort of things at higher doses and with mushrooms you can forget doing any of that stuff. I don't feel like ego-loss is very likely with 2ci, at least not for me. Ego-loss with 2ce seems like it could occur more handily.
