I don't hate the world anymore

I didn't think you were being patronizing and I didn't take any kind of offense to you saying what you said. Contrary to popular belief, I do not get offended by people disagreeing with me...

Any of the cases where people think they have seen me do that (get offended by disagreement), should go back and re-read what led up to that point. You will find that in almost every case, I am responding to something in the same manner it was handed to me...

 

I think people invest themselves in those things because they feel (and are made to feel) that they can't change or control the other things in the world.

As for the rest of what you said, I understand it, and can't disagree with it.

 

I have been thinking about this.

I have decided that I am okay with being a cold hearted businessman.

Yes, I exploit the helpless and I do it for a profit and I mean a lot of profit.

I can live with that.

That is the reality and I am not going to try to sugar coat anything.

Of course this thread was meant to say I don't hate the world. Nothing more nothing less. But others added their own thoughts and judgements about me.

Meh, free speech is a bitch sometimes.

I still don't hate the world and I still believe almost anyone can rise above where they are and become successful.

But what the hell. It is all about money.

If my employees do not like it, they can leave.

I pay them an above average wage and I provide housing.

If they are not happy they can go back to their thatched leafed houses with no electricity or running water.

That is fine with me.

I take all the financial risk and I am still working long into the night after they go home from their so called "work".

So they do not deserve a dime of the profit.

I hope I have made myself crystal clear.

 

This is a lot better then your previous assertion, respecting someone else's opinion, is much easier when they respect it themselves...

 

In my mind it has not changed a bit.

I said before if they do not like what I pay they can leave.

But I certainly do not hold a gun to my employees or there children's head.

I said before I cannot change the world. That has not changed.

I still think most people can rise above where they are.

I suppose what might have changed is I am done with defending who I am.

People can think whatever they want about me.

But other than your commie idea about sharing profits I really don't have a problem with what you said.

Oh and I have decided if you say a certain word, I am going to fire someone and they can go find someone else to live off.

Talk away.

 

Once again, looking for a way to shift the blame for your actions onto others... guess we're right back at the start after all.

What had changed (but has now changed back) is that you had for a brief moment, started to accept responsibility for your choices.

 

Thanks, having been through some similar circumstances and just recently getting past them, I find that story very inspiring.

 

I do accept responsibility.

Why am I paying someone I do not need?

That is my choice and I made it.

 

At a guess, I would say to feed your ego in two separate ways.

Being able to point to your companies property and display that you have 'extra' wealth to spend on shit that doesn't matter, and in being able to claim that you are doing something 'nice' by keeping them on.

 

Alright I have no problem with that.

Like I said in my other post, I am through sugar coating anything.

For some stupid ass reason I seemed to care about how others perceived me.

I am done.

 

Thank you.

I really do believe all people can go beyond where they are.

I have no doubt you can face anything.

 

Absolutely.

However it was easier for you to accrue wealth as an evil fucker than it would have been as a decent one, by a long shot, and though you believe it to be possible to be otherwise, you do not have proof.

You have created a thread extolling this possibility, but have not done it.

bbl, I have to go see if I can shake lights from casinos.

 

I cannot argue with that. Except the tread was about going beyond hate. Well until certain people totally derailed it. (no not you.)

So was it worth it for me to hate? No.

A product is a product. You do not have to hurt anyone to sell a product.

I am thinking out loud here, so bear with me...

Seems to me good and bad are judgements calls.

Just like the "Nobel Peace Price", endowed by Mr. Nobel becase he felt so guilty about all the people he killed (and the massive money he made) with his explosives.

Was he a good person?

Depends on who you ask. A peace prize winner would say yes. But you might have a different view if you were blown to bits by his explosives.


Originally my point was regardless of where you are, you can pick yourself up and go beyond the challenges. Stop hating the world. Stop the anger.

That has not changed.

But with all I read here I wondered to myself... it does seem that all people that have vast wealth has people who think they are evil exploiters.

Walt Disney is thought to be a wonderful person by some. But he did in fact have numerous people who hated him. The mammoth of Disney is not the company of wounder that it tries to portray itself as. It is a multi billion dollar cash factory that has a very suspect record in many peoples eyes.

As for me. Yes, I have done a lot of bad in my life. I cannot change that.

What I can do is try to live as a better person every day and hopefully in the end I will have created more good than bad.

 

Too bad you don't have the ability (or choose not to) to simply say what you mean instead of trying to hide it among passive words.

Your 'original point', of people being able to pick yourself up and move beyond challenges, is right, the rest is not. Hate and anger are a part of life, just like love and happiness are.

Hating what is wrong with the world, and being angry at us for the choices that we make is what we need more of.

This false idea that a 'good' person doesn't hate is total nonsense as far as I'm concerned. All emotions are a part of who we are, it is finding a balance that works for each person that is appropriate.

To ignore the bad things that happen in the world and pretend that life is about love and goodness is sticking your head in the sand and hoping you don't get trampled while you hope everything will be okay.

That last line, of all you can do is try to be a better person... If Hitler had killed a few less jews, he would have been a 'better' person then he was, it still wouldnt have made him a good person.

This idea of looking around us and saying, "look I could be worse", so you should be happy that I'm not doesn't make any sense to me... Although I will agree that most of the world seems to understand it.

Instead of judging yourself in comparison to what you have done or could have done, why not judge yourself by comparing what you choose to do, as compared to what you could choose to do?

In other words, faced with a choice of helping someone or screwing them, you could just ignore them and say, I'm a better person then I was, because in the past I would have screwed them and I chose not to.

To me, it would be better to be able to say, I could have really screwed them, but instead I helped them.

 

Bla, Bla, Bla,

That is your opinion.

I agree you are totally right. You are correct in everything you say.

I am done tom. Think of me what you will.

I am just here expressing ideas. I am tired of defending thoughts.

No, I am not as perfect of a human being as you are.

I am so sorry I cannot meat your high moral standards.

I have admitted I made mistakes. Tons of them.

Yes and I am such a skum evil person.

 

Why is it you have such an issue talking about these things?

Instead of purposely going out of your way to keep an ongoing issue here, how about you actually discuss how you disagree?

 

I have to ask here. Why is this such an issue for you? What are you getting from this that makes it worth making it such an issue?

 

Well, I would really like to know what allows people to think the things they do. Part of that is finding out if they have actual reasons for the things they say they believe, as opposed to just tossing out things that they think sound good, or will get a good reaction.

If a person has reasons for their ideas, and can support them, no matter what they are, at least it shows that they have put thought into it, and I want to know what those thoughts are...

Or at least that's how these things start...

 

The phrase of what allows people, who decides that? People may think what they like. We can agree or disagree with their thoughts but we do not allow thought, it is a given right of all.

I ask again my original question what are you getting from this?

I have read and reread numerous times and I still do not understand what you are getting from this.

 

Where did I say anything about what other people allowed someone to think?

I said, what allows a person to think what they do, as in the internal thought processes, not external pressures.