4aco-DMT first time dose?

Hey, im not sure how much 4aco dmt I should take, Im looking for a mild but fun experience. I do not have much experience with psychedelics, Ive done 1 gram of mushrooms and got very satisfying effects. I t seems like I have a low tolerance to all drugs in general.

 

mild but fun . . . 10-30mg. do like 20-25mg.

 

since you mention low tolerance, you could start with 15 mg. you can always take more, but never take less

 

If you've only ever eaten a gram of mushrooms, 25mg may be overwhelming, especially if you have a naturally low tolerance. I've never personally taken 4-aco-dmt, but I've read reports on people being overwhelmed with 15mg.

 

This is one o the reasons i cant decide what to do because it seems everyone has a different opinion on the dosages, while one person may say do 25 another might say 15 can be overwhelming.

 

so start low and work your way up

 

ya when I was new to psyches I would have rather been underwhelmed than over. 15 mg would be a good first dose imo for someone just acquainted with psyches.

 

dont care what anyone tells ya on here bro, 13mg is going to be the best dose for you to start off on. ive gone through 500mg of 4-aco-dmt and i found the best results to be at 13, the most comfertable. not overwhelming, but like a really amazing shroom trip.

13mg, start there. play higher, play lower.

 

^^^are you talking about the fumarate?

 

luckyyyy. I don't start feeling much untill the 35mg mark. But this new batch i have seem to have a lot worse potency then the old batch from a Canadian vendor that recently closed shop. 15mg of his was nice.

 

would you guys say that you can have as much of a good time with friends on 4aco compared to amt or mdma?

 

one thing to keep in mind that many of the people on here are referring to the HCL salt, but since your dosing on the fumarate salt you will need a higher dose becauase the fumarate is a bit less potent.

20 mg sounds like what you're looking for.

 

No way. 4aces is much more personal and psychological and heavy, amt/mdma are good social drugs (mdma much more so obviously). 4aces . . . low doses sure ya, but higher doses will crack open your mind and pour its contents out into your awareness.

 

its all dependant on what you mean by "having a good time" - if you're gonna be at a loud party then AMT would be the way to go, if you're gonna be with a few close friends somewhere comfortable then 4 aco DMT can allow you to connect with them just as much, if not way more.

 

I wouldn't take it around a lot of people, but if you tripped with a small group of people I'm sure you would have a blast. Large groups can get somewhat crazy. One time I was at this house and there was probly 10 or so people there and everyone was on acid it was pretty crazy for sure!

 

Thank you all so much for all the replies. I think I'll stick with AmT this time but deffinatly keep 4aco for another time when I will be in a better setting.

 

I thought vendors refused to sell the HCL salt due to it degrading into psilocin too rapidly.

 

From what I have heard the furmarate salt is most common. I think number of other related sustituted tryptamines are also prepared as the fumarate as it is more stable with these chems. So theres a good chance the stuff you have is the fumarate.

Would the appearance of the HCL and fumarate salts be the same or would they have a diffenerent appearance compared to one another. The stuff I had once that was supposed to be 4-aco-dmt was not the expected white powder but a very fine, pale yellow powder. I checked it under a blacklight expectng it to glow but it didn't at all. It appeared almost black sortof against the white paper it was sitting on. What does the 4-aco-dmt look like that you guys have gotten. I have thought before that the vendor may have accidentally send me 4-ho-mipt instead but I never could figure our for sure.

 

i thought only the lysergamides are supposed to glow under a black light, not any tryptamines or phenethylamines?

 

well it definitely didn't glow, for some reason at the time I thought it looked like it would glow but it didn't. LSD I know obviously glows adn I've seen crystal meth glow also, but this stuff not in the least.