friends having problems with nakedness

Discussion in 'Nudism, Naturism' started by P.K.J., Jul 15, 2010.

  1. P.K.J.

    P.K.J. Member

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    i love to be naked all the time, as much as possible anyway but i found out that so many friends have problems with being naked. i don´t see any problems at all. does anyone have the same problem? i really don´t understand the problem with nakedness. :)
    sometimes i adapt myself at home by wearing shorts but a lot of times i just want to be myself and people need to accept the fact that i love to be naked.
     
  2. Newnudenudist

    Newnudenudist Member

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    I agree with you one 100%
     
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    is it your house?
     
  4. freecospirit

    freecospirit Member

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    I empathise with your wishes but you have to be pragmatic and accept society as it is much of the time even in your own home. Very few naturists are relaxed about being nude in company where it is not really accepted especially with friends and family.
     
  5. nldn

    nldn Senior Member

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    I agree- it may not seem OK, society will not change overnight.
     
  6. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    This stems back in the necessity argument. Is it 100% necessary to be naked around your friends? If not wake the fuck up and put some clothes on.

    -rolls her fucking eyes-
     
  7. Wine Country Nudist

    Wine Country Nudist Member

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    It's always us nudists who have to respect others' problems with nudity and put on clothes so they won't be offended. Funny how it's never the other way around...
     
  8. nldn

    nldn Senior Member

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    That's the way it is sadly.
     
  9. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    No nudist has ever produced a sufficient argument as to why the rest of society should accept them with any sort of validity. I mean just read the crap you guys post on here. "I love being naked, there should be more naked beaches, like why's everyone got problems with it anyway, I love being in the woods naked, I love being in my house naked, I wish my neighbors didn't have a problem with me being naked". I'm actually in high spirits that the Australian outback is so hostile to human life. I can now save the 14 cents on a .303 round and let the bugs take care of the problems themselves. What's the paramount argument that can actually dignify your cause? That you were born naked so you should live naked? Fact: Not all furry animals are born with fur. They simply grow it to ensure stability in their environment. There is absolutely no need to fight for nudist rights and it's absolutely pointless trying to argue for them. You don't need to be naked. Your neighbors don't need to see you naked. Kids playing in the park don't need to see you naked. I can appreciate the learnings and understanding of naturism and nudism but people, society and community nudism just isn't necessary.
     
  10. Dude111

    Dude111 An Awesome Dude

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    I also agree!!!!


    Many people have been brought up to think THE BODY IS DIRTY AND SHOULD NOT BE SEEN!! (Which is very untrue)


    Its sad they cant break that programming and see how beautiful it really is :)
     
  11. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Because it's natural. What more is there to argue about? You may be equating nudity with sexuality.
     
  12. P.K.J.

    P.K.J. Member

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    it´s true, people have to learn to respect nude people! :)
     
  13. *pixy*

    *pixy* Member

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    > i love to be naked all the time, as much as possible anyway

    i guess this applies on the most participants here ;-)

    > but i found out that so many friends have problems with being naked.

    do they have problems with being naked themselves or do they have problems having you naked among them?

    > i don´t see any problems at all.

    this is definitely the best attitude! But in daily social real life, all peple bring with them their personal moral concepts and restrictions, experiences, education etc etc. It's a fact that not all people have the same neutral view on nudity like you have.

    > does anyone have the same problem?

    i wouldn't call this a problem, it's just handling reality. Probably you (like me) have friends you can hang around with while you are naked, or they even share. But probaly there are others who are not so open minded (or not yet), so if you like to stay with them you have to decide wheter you do it naked and offend their feelings, or you put something on and scale back your own freedom. Social living is a world of compromises. So you have to decide if you want to go the hardliner way and eventially cut off the relations with friends that can't understand your intentions, or go the compromise way. To be honest, i did choose the second version.

    > i really don´t understand the problem with nakedness. :)

    well, at least it shouldn't be a physical problem for someone living in the olive garden hills near Malage with 330 warm und sunny days a year *envious* ;-) (btw. i wonder why your wonderful love- and prayer-campers have dutch licence plates. Misschien bent je een exil-neederlander?)

    > sometimes i adapt myself at home by wearing shorts but a lot of times i just want to be myself and people need to accept the fact that i love to be naked.

    Maybe by the time more of your buddies do become used to see you naked (or even share), so i hope you can enlarge your "freedom-sphere" step by step. But this is nothing happening from one day to another, but a slow social process. I don't make a secret of the fact i feel very fine naked, but i always signalize that there are solutions if anyone feels bothered or can't handle it. The result is i have quite different standards of ways i meet friends. Some accept me going naked even at their place, but for others i even dress up at my own flat. Some friends reqire full dress, for others a pareo cloth round my hips is sufficcien. And it depends whether it's summer or winter .. etc etc That might sound dissappointing, but it''s my way to find a compromise between self-realisation and considerateness with the aim to keep social relations alive. On the other hand, over the years i have "seduced" a lot of people to nude beach life, even some who had quite narrow ideas of nudity before. The break through often was the point when they discoverd that nudity isn't some "dirty" sex thing, but just a wonderful way to be one with your environment and keep all antennas open for sensual enjoyment. So probably it's a quite good thing that there are guys like you who show that nudity is just a nice thing and nothing harmful or threatening.

    Good luck!
     
  14. GardenGuy

    GardenGuy Senior Member

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    P.K.J.
    It's okay to invite your current friends to try nudity, but if they won't go for it, maybe you should make some new friends who already share your enthusiasm for nude living.
    Do you go to the nude beaches of Spain? Maybe you could meet people there.
     
  15. lookingglass

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    Why would any one want to cover up what they are?
    Why would some one be offended by seeing what some one else is?
    We all are the same!
    Why denie your self the pleasure of enjoying your own body? It won't last long and I think its a sin to waist it. A thousand years from now will someone say hey remember when so and so was naked didn't he look the fool? Its your body created for your enjoyment, beautiful flesh and bone, here for just a wispy second and then gone into dust, don't waist it. Do you think God created all this so whe could cover it with a sheet, and be ashamed?
    Society needs to change, its time we discarded all the lies that have been handed down to us from the past, manditory clothing included.
    Anyway, friends and nudity-
    I recently moved into a house of hippies, yes full blown hippies. We share a large house in the country, 5 guys and 3 girls. I was invited to move by a friend of mine who runs the house. After three months it really didn't seem like the other house members were excepting me very well. Give it time I thought.
    Summer vacation was coming and it was time for me to tone up and tan down. I had a wieght bench in the shed and a bike path goes right by the house. The first time I appeared in the common areas in my workout clothes there was an almost audible collective gasp! Nothing unusual, shorts-not to short, tanktop, ankle socks and sneakers. They were like "What are you doing" and I was like "What"?
    My friend and I had a discussion later and I confessed to him that I am a nudist and I was preparing for my annual beach vacation not withstanding the other benifits of exercise. He was like" So what if I want to go naked"? As if that might shock me! I couldn't beleave it, I was in a house of hungup hippies!
    So a couple weeks later I decide to go out to the back yard and work on my tan. Only me and my friend are home and I think its safe, bloody hell, first times a charm. Half the house hold comes walking in the back yard and I'm caught red handed so to speak. They walked to the back of the yard away from me, some greeting me as they pass. They saw me so I just stay as I am, I think they are either surprised that I didn't dress before they came back or perhaps they didn't notice my nudity on the first pass.
    But they all came walking back up to me and it was then that I realized that no one had noticed on the first pass except one who was still speechless! What could I do? So I sat there on my blanket and talked to them like all was normal and they were so embarrased that they stood there and talked back like everything was cool!
    So after the jokes died down, I found that suddenly I was excepted into the house and that the other members began treating me more like family and all I had to do is show them who I am! A human!
     
  16. TipsyGypsy

    TipsyGypsy Light of a Fading Star

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    I agree. Not everyone wants to be naked all the time, and not everyone wants to be around naked people all the time.
     
  17. Nyxx

    Nyxx HELLO STALKER

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    I feel most negative reactions to public nudity can somehow be traced back to nudity being equated with sex.

    If you are in your own house then people should respect your wishes and accept the fact that you like being nude.

    As far as being nude in public, I think it will be a LONG time before public nudity is accepted (by the mainstream). If someone is uncomfortable with your nudity, you should respect that.

    I love being nude and if we could all be nude whenever we wanted we would all have a much happier, healthier view of ourselves and others. :)
     
  18. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    >i love to be naked all the time, as much as possible
    Cool beans bro!

    >anyway but found out that so many friends have
    >problems with being naked.
    OoooooK. What makes it any of their business? Do you live alone or with them? ith them I can understand they might have a problem with it. If so, respect their wishes. See if you guys can't come to a compromise.

    >i don´t see any problems at all. does anyone have
    >the same problem?
    To each their own. You like apples and they like cucumbers. It happens.
    I had problems with people not respecting my privacy (I live(d) alone) when I owned a few acres. My attitude then as it is now is "Yeah? So?. My home, my land, WTF are you doing here?"

    >i really don´t understand the problem with nakedness.
    Again, apples and cucumbers.

    >sometimes i adapt myself at home by wearing shorts
    >but a lot of times i just want to be myself and people
    >need to accept the fact that i love to be naked.
    Well, if you are living with others, you'll have tomake some kind of accommodation in your preferences. Or move out on your own.

    They should respect your desire to be naked, but you need to respect their wishes as well.
     
  19. freecospirit

    freecospirit Member

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    You need to play each situation by ear. In this world most people (present company excepted) would be uncomfortable in the presence of naked people. On a beach where some are nude then of course it is not an issue or at home where others are nudist inclined (they may or not be nude at the time) again it is not an issue. But to brazenly expose yourself to others is a step too far, that is certainly outside my comfort zone. Being caught by chance in the buff though embarrassing is something most people would cope with and may be it would signal that it could OK after all. We can't change the world and we just have to act according to circumstance.
     
  20. GardenGuy

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    In a communal living situation, the prudes can't tell the nudist guy that he can never be nude. They need to work out a solution. Ideally he should have the option of being nude anywhere, anytime he wants. But if not, at least give him some dedicated time on the sun deck or put up a temporary fence where he can lay out and tan in the nude.

    If tables were turned and nudists called the shots, he could tell them, "No clothes in this house or you'll have to move out!"
    I don't understand why people always expect the nudist to give in.
    Why can't we be offended by clothed people once in a while?
     

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