ok b4 the flame's burn i have read thread after thread read the questions and stared dumbfounded at the responses. i am not a lazy man nor do i not know how to research, but i really dont know where to even start. to find what it is i am looking for should such a place even exist anymore. i see alot of terms i dont understand sure as defined by wiki i get it but do they, so with that in mind let me bore u a bit. like the young girl who posted another thread i left home vry young and did the whole street punk thing yes gota love the 80's."lol" i bounced around alot by 86 i had found my way to Eugene Oregon some will know why just by reading some wont but why doesn't matter just the the experience changed my life well not then but later the important thing is their i met a couple a brother and sister. people like i had never met before. i was a product of me of anger and hate, they were something completely different. they shanghaied me in to their vw bus and dosed me up wow anyone remember sandoz anyways i digress. off to the 87 Oakland aids benefit then off to jerry on the ule river. i had never heard of the dead, they shared everything they had and were with me on that trip "some stupid little street kid burning and filled with hate" these two strangers showed me something i had never seen up close "LOVE" unconditional and without expiation. i didn't learn how to love on that trip, but maybe lets say they planted a seed. it took so very long to grow as life does it changed and then changed again love's , losses and war's later i found myself so burned up with the anger and hate i realized i only hated myself i've been injured in so many ways in my life but the injury of the self discovery that i was simply a really really bad person was almost more than one could bare, so i let it go all the anger by this point i really didn't remember why i was angry in the first place.unfortunately i am a man of extremes and i find myself completely the opposite the seed that was planted so long ago blossomed for 10 years now i haven't gotten mad " not that i don't get aggravated or even upset with things or situations its i have found a center that makes it possible to not let that around me dictate my emotions" growing up in the mountains of eastern Oregon i am quite capable of trekin off in to the woods and making a life of if on my own i can trap and grow and build, alas i am a social creature no real desire to be the myth of the man on the mountain. not interested in stock pilein guns for the fall of society. i've looked at the links shared though eco communities are cool looking and all not sure that's what i'm looking for either. the whole come buy a house here and u can be a member yeah not for me. so what im lookin for is a community based in love. love with each other and the world around them one of acceptance and tolerance. i see alota we expect 3 hours of work a week to me thats nutz im that guy banging on your hut sayin what needs to be done not saying i'm a work aholic by anymeans but i feal better about me the more i contribute. i dont wanta own anything, or lead anything im looking for a place to grow and learn who i am and maybe just maybe meet some folks who can help me be a better me for the benefit of those and around me. utopia i get it but those people i met so long ago had that kinda harmony in their lives. i'm not sure i deserve it but my very soul reaches for it. so after boring u with that tale of poor me. the question is this: is their such a community left in the world? do people still share that kind of unconditional love anymore? if so could anyone point me in the right direction to find such people? yes i know to ask i will be called whatever and whatever is said thats kewl but if one kind soul answers this post with just that kindness and love in their heart then what ever else is said its worth it be well john
You don't understand why people who have actually taken action and put what they are and have into an idea, would be upset with others who have done nothing but read a few posts in a forum coming along and try to dictate the terms upon which they will do something? When you get to the point you can receive pm's... ignore the one I sent you.
i guess i do not understand i don't even see where im trying to dictate terms honestly unless your talking about where i said that about the 3 hours a week but did u read the rest of that sentence. i was simply saying i would be asking to work more than that. never the less thanx for your input tom i will try to word my self better in the future
You were bitching about the way people have been treated here. My response was to that. The majority of people who get bitched at, come and post saying they are looking for something, and then never do anything more then that. The ones who have actually taken action and started their life on a path to a communal or shared living experience take their time to come and answer questions and encourage people. The majority of the responses we get are nothing more then a waste of time. This is why when someone comes along and says, "Hey, you are doing this wrong, it should be done this way" some of us tend to react badly... You don't think that I show enough love to people who have done nothing and will do nothing but tell us that are actually living this life how we are doing it wrong? Too bad for you. You want to start a community up that is open arms to all with acceptance, love and tolerance to all? Great! Go do it... I will warn you ahead of time though, the real world, includes child molesters, animal abusers, rapists, killers and all sorts of other types that will turn your utopia into the worst nightmare you can imagine. Unconditional acceptance, love and tolerance only works if everyone agrees what is acceptable and what is not... and you will find that few people will agree on that across the board. To me, if I was going to go join a community, and they told me they welcomed everyone with open arms and acceptance without condition, I would instantly change my mind. I want (as do the people who will join us here), a place that is as safe and secure from the predators of the world. A place where the people who are accepted (conditionally), can freely share their love and compassion with the rest of the people in the community without reserve. How do you have that, if everyone is accepted? Oh, and also... Just how is it, that you feel it is okay for you to put conditions on what you want, if you feel that unconditional acceptance is the way to go? What difference makes it okay for you to make your acceptance of a community conditional on it being what you want but excludes those who live there from being able to put conditions on who they accept?
ahh see i understand that much better and again thank you for the input! i how ever have no interest in getting into a bantering match with you over the semantics of what was actually said vs what you have chosen to read love not war brother is all i can offer
