National Identity Card Scheme

It's the old battle between good and evil, to shag or shag not, drugs and booze and no drugs and booze, and to twat nazis or to not twat nazis!:H


Any way back to arguing the thread at hand.......SHUT UP WITH YOUR NONSENSICAL RANTING TORY BOY!!!!!:X

(Guess who won?!)

 

it will be interesting to see how they enforce these national ID cards on people like myself, with no fixed abode and constantly on the move.

lets say hypothetically that i wasn't bothered about having an ID card and was quite happy to carry one. how would i get it? i'm sure these things are all computer based, and the computers might not like it if you try missing out a detail, (like an address) so how would they even issue one to me?

i would risk losing out on vital services and god knows what other punishment they inflict on non-conformees. my only option would be to return to a house which i would hate.

life is made hard enough for travellers as it is thanks to mrs thatcher. this is just another step to making life even harder.

obviously i realise this is a civil liberties issue which affects us all, but this is just the way it would affect me. and i find it very very scary.

peace and love
stardust
xxx

 

Ahhh and evil won and you got to shag and take drugs and get pissed....

- But where would I be without my nonsensical rantings

- Tory? You have to be joking. I've never considered the Nazi Party but hey I'll take another look.....


Now for something completely different, a touching tale of love against all odds....

http://www.conky.co.uk/love.htm

 

Live like you will never die, Love like you have never been hurt, Dance like no-one is watching

 

I am not sure but i think as many "registrable facts" will be on the card so no address no address i guess.

I think the main thing is that you have a NI No. and a birth certificate these i think will be the building blocks to the 'facts'.


I read in the Daily Mail , not the best source for valid information i realise... but just an indication how certain members of the community think.. Some people are afraid that idle gossip will be on the card so if someone thinks your having an affair, nosey parkers will be able to ring a No. and snitch ..wich is ridicuosly funny ..

anway if your realy concerned http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/comrace/identitycards/index.html send a email ?? or are you just throwing hurdles up ???

 

I ain't high or mighty mate. If you think that I think I am, then its purely the way you have percieved me, in which case I am obviously higher and mightier than you.
My views were simply that - views. It could have provoked an interesting discussion about how folk clash when offering views on message boards, on how rarefied and yet far removed from normal discussion a setup things like this is for debate, about the social interaction arising from it, the perceptions people have of folk. Me high and mighty? You perception of me comes from a judgement based purley on text on a screen, no unspoken communication, no facial expressions...... tis interesting that you think of me as high and mighty.
I'll take that as a compliment!

As for calling me a knobjockey - name calling is easy mate on an internet message board. Try something more intelligent. Or should I join you at your level?
Ok then wankshaft, piss off.

 

yeah alright i had just read a few of your interjections were you put the thread into a conclusive judgement thats all..so thats all i was trying to say. Now that you have said your not high and mighty , i will take your word for it .

wankshaft .... i like it thats funny. i am sorry if i was a knobjocky myself in that post . Like you say (and i agree)..

Hope to have a more pleasant communication with you in the future

 

not at all, I thought knobjockey was pretty funny.

so, fuckstick, hope to disagree with you pleasantly soon.





Cobaltblue - "dance like no-one is watching".
I have to convince myself that that is true to dance at all!
after many years of being a no-confidence dancer, I finally managed to get to a place where I care not what folk think.... till recently was dancing a bit at home (had friends round for a meal - don't get out much these days, what with kids and all....) when a 'friend' said "look at that - 'dad dancing'...."
Put me right back to square 1.

 

Ah but you missed the point here. Your own insecurities about being an accomplished dancer and worrying about what others will think just inhibits you. The fact we are all frightened of making a fool of ourselves just hinders us even further. The saying; "dance like no-one is watching" should mean just that. The fact they might be watching is not important.

Who cares what anyone thinks? In fact, quite often the reverse is true with our perceptions of how others view us. Recently at a party some geezer go up and started strutting around dancing amongst a lot of younger folk. He had a few too many to drink but he wasn't drunk and the good part was that he was really enjoying himself. At first a small group laughed, "look at that silly old codger" they said. However, an even larger group thought he was so cool for just letting go and enjoying himself. By the end of the evening he was the most popular guy there.

Now, you could always dance alone or dance in the countryside or dance in your living room when the kids are out - the fact that you dance at all is enough...

 

just throwing hurdles up. i have no intention of getting one anyway.

peace and love
stardust
xxx

 

I see , but you will have to have one ..... use it as a coaster .

 

Just to be clear, I think you'll find it was me who introduced the term 'knobjockey' to this forum. And I did so with strict disclaimers regarding its homophobic slant

*edit* Just noticed matthew creditted me earlier in the thread. I shall call off the lawyers!

 

The one thing i don't like about the proposal is that you will have to carry it round with you all the time. I find this intrusive. i wouldn't mind an ID card which was just some ID which you could choose to carry with you, but if they can arrest you for not having it with you, then that's just scary!

 

I doubt that you'd be arrested...more like fined.....although I expect that would depend on what colour you are in many cases!

Someone could end up in a deportation centre....

<cue that nut Treetwat to come and rant twaddle>

 

I am not he, and not much of a rant i don't think...just passing on some info..

Were did you hear that you will have to carry it around with you at all times..this is not true...as far as i am aware.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/comrace/identitycards/faq.html#9

 

That was my impression too. I wasn't aware there was any suggestion we'd need to carry it around. Yet.

 

well I'm sure we've all heard of those subdermal implants that are in circulation recently, why not have them as identity cards, it'd be a bit less like having a bar code tattoo'd on you than the government would like but it'd hold more data...

 

You could get one on your dick. That way you could pay the hookers without even needing to interrupt the act

 

Ha! Sickboy!

 

You can move over a few feet on your protest marches if we do have to carry them all the time .

But just because i am easily manipulated : I heard an ex policeman (stationed in Hong Kong) on the radio today , he said ... If the Uk ID card had your blood type any allergies and any other pertinent medical information, if your ever in a accident it would be quite useful . Thay have this in Hong Kong if i understood him correctly ... It might be not such a bad idea ?.